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About MisterGrey

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  • Birthday 08/30/1985


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    Ypsilanti, MI
  • Interests
    Reading, baking, eating delicious foods, sculpting, going rock hounding, etc...
  • How familiar are you with witchcraft?
    I'm still relatively new, I have a very extensive history of paranormal experiences (which includes, hauntings, possession, weird smoke coming out of my body that fries electronics, out of body experiences, spiritual visitors, precognition and the voice in my head that seems to be wiser than anyone i've ever met), energy work (that i was doing without knowing what it actually was), and some ceremonial & chaos based magic, but i haven't done much in the ways of classic traditional witchcraft. Unfortunately it's hard to wade through the sea of "feel-good wiccan witchcraft" books and find the ones that have traditional material, which is a big reason i'm excited to learn more through this website! :)
  • Have you explored other paths?
    I was raised Catholic, it was a horrible fear ridden existence that had made me feel like a prisoner on death row for over 25 years of my life, never being able to question anything for fear of damnation, always being wrong, evil, bad, guilty, it was absolutely terrible.<br /><br />My introduction into the occult was through my Fluffy-Bunny Wiccan Ex. While the primary reason i decided to leave her was because she was the textbook definition of an insatiably cruel sociopath, another very strong contender was the fact that she conducted her "spiritual affairs" with the wisdom, intelligence and experience reminiscent of a 5 year old that was just handed a fully loaded semi-automatic handgun (which is to say she was dangerous as hell). It didn't take long for me to figure out that the Wiccan path was not what people claimed it was (as I'm sure you're all aware), the "new-agey" wicca seemed to be nothing more than a disneyfied version of an eclectic mixture of various traditions from a multitude of cultures, without any of the associated safety measures or context, which is not only ignorant, but also incredibly dangerous. a conclusion i came to after a bit of research spurred by my initial concern that the entirety of wicca either completely ignores or disavows the existence of any "Darker" sides of magic/spirituality.<br /><br />Right now i'm still fairly eclectic, considering i've had a fairly wide range of spiritual experiences, i don't really have a word that sums up what i am other than the word "occultist". I seek knowledge, understanding and wisdom, that is the trinity to which i bow to, and with the help of my guide, i hope to learn more and to grow.
  • Have you ever worked with Traditional Witchcraft?
    yes, i've worked with a number of traditional witchcraft based systems, but primarily only for defensive purposes. The person i used to date essentially turned our apartment into a "Motel 6" for every sort of nasty horrible entity out there, thus i had to do my damndest to learn some defensive measures. My current residence have a number of witch bottle wards, a coffin nail pounded into the lintel of the entrance to dispel illusions and other various measures, but i'm interested in learning more.
  • What does Traditional Witchcraft mean to you?
    Traditional Witchcraft to me, means the traditions of old left untouched by the twisted views of the modern age, No Gardnerian cult crap, No new-agey feel-good "disney" wicca and definitely no "i'm a witch" because i care more about being trendy than i do about actually participating in an ancient practice steeped in tradition and history. Traditional Witchcraft is like the fringe science of existence, treading in waters that few dare to venture into, with the hopes and desire to understand the world around us and to be able to effect it in turn.
  • How long have you worked with witchcraft in general?
    Apparently i've been doing it ever since i was a kid, and i just didn't know it. Consciously though, probably around four years now.
  • What brought you to our site?
    A desire to learn, to converse with like-minded individuals, and escape the hypocritical expanse of individuals who care more about having the title of "witch" than they do about witchcraft itself.
  • What do you expect to get from this site, and what do you expect to contribute to this forum?
    I expect to get/share information & ideas, develop camaraderie with people who walk a similar path and to grow spiritually as a result of both.
  • Do you belong to any other online witchcraft sites?
  • What are your strongest points in witchcraft?
    I honestly couldn't say as i seem to be a rather eclectic mixture of skills and knowledge. I'd say my strongest point would have to be the fact that i seem to be quite adept at hearing the conversations of the dead, or not of this world.
  • What are your weakest points in witchcraft?
    lack of experience, lack of knowledge when it comes to traditional methods. but by far my weakest point is my anger, due to horrendous amounts of childhood abuse when i get angry, i get very angry, my energy turns to a sticky black tarry substance and it draws in every horrible thing for miles, because it's apparently like a delicacy to some kinds of entities.

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  1. First off I have to say: Khundekling, this is an awesome question, and totally got my inner-geek super excited. While I haven't done what you're talking about doing personally, I do have a few thoughts on what might happen, based on my own craft-related observations, and my background in computer science, discreet mathematics, with just a hint of quantum physics. The possible outcomes seem to be the following: the universe will either "choose one or the other", "one layered on top of the other" (like a blend), or "expressing both simultaneously" (like quantum entanglement - which is all kinds of messy). If I had to guess though, I'd say that it would likely be either layered on top of one another, or both expressed simultaneously because energetic quantum reality doesn't seem to be limited to functioning in an "either/or" capacity. The reason I believe this to be true, is because multiple spells and hexes seem to be able to affect the same quality or attribute simultaneously without breaking one-another, indicating that qualities/attributes can potentially have one-to-many relationships with spellwork. It's also possible that every quality/attribute in question just has so many subtle energy variants/states that it isn't necessary to "overwrite" as a result of the overlap. With those two possibilities in mind - what I'd be most concerned about is how the overlap is handled. Because if my logical assertions hold any water: any areas where overlap occurs might either: get nullified (in the case where a positive and negative are perfectly averaged out) behave erratically (if both can be expressed depending on other variables) have a reduction in efficacy (based on the difference between values) get added to the mix in the wrong context (if there was no opposing value, it would just get tossed in there unopposed) or get amplified (if they're similar typed values, and the results are additive or multiplicative) So if you end up doing both, it's quite possible that various aspects of each spell will get either nullified, compromised, act erratically, get added in the wrong context, or amplified: and I don't believe that's going to give you the result you're looking for. Also, if you are truly of two minds about what to do, that might hamper the effectiveness of the spells you cast too, because you're not really committed to either one. However there's also the possibility that your subconscious/intuition may know what the best choice is already even if you don't consciously realize it yet, so you might find that if you go to do both spells: one will feel "stronger" and the other one may feel "weaker". If that's the case though, I'd probably try starting with divination to determine what your best course of action might be, and then going into that one course, fully committed, knowing that if it doesn't work out, you can always undo it later, and then cast the opposite spell at that point (if that's an option of course). I do have to say though, this a very juicy question and it's got me super intrigued: I obviously wouldn't want you to do anything that might have bad consequences for you, but if you decide to try this out for curiosity's sake, I'd be really interested in hearing about your results from casting diametrically opposed spells like this. Curiosity might kill some cats, but the cats who survive usually learn some exceptionally amazing tricks along the way 😊
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