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You all want to see some really freaky dolls, check out this website.

 

Shain Erin Art dolls

 

I actually like these dolls, but they could not be in my bedroom. They would have to be in a room where I didn't see them before I went to sleep. LOL

 

Oddly, those dolls don't freak me out nearly as much as normal dolls do. Anytime I see a regular old doll that my little one has left laying around, it gives me the willies. Dolls that are intentionally creepy looking don't make me feel that way at all. But if they started to move or twitch, that would be a different story! :bolt:

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I've always wanted to make something like that but poppets, voodoo dolls, doll babies, soul dolls all kind off creep me out, especially don't like the 'sack' material some are made of.

You all want to see some really freaky dolls, check out this website.

 

Shain Erin Art dolls

 

I actually like these dolls, but they could not be in my bedroom. They would have to be in a room where I didn't see them before I went to sleep. LOL

 

I like these dolls too (maybe not the one with all the eyes), I saw a woman making something like this at an art fair but they were sooooo expensive.

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Yeah I think I could make dolls like this lol. I think I may try soon. But the cost is really high. I looked at the ETSY page and the cheapest he is selling the doll for is $75 and up to $350!!

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Bumping this thread as I am currently making three applehead dolls. I do not think I am going to be making these soul dolls, but hearth dolls. I will post pictures of my hearth doll shortly so you all can see what I mean by applehead dolls.

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here is the picture of my mountain lady with her bag of bones, grapevine hair stick/wand, and oak walking stick.

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here is the picture of my mountain lady with her bag of bones, grapevine hair stick/wand, and oak walking stick.

 

That's awesome, RF! I love the expression of the face. :biggrin:

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I love applehead dolls! I made one when I was a kid. My grandpa taught me how to make it. He said his sisters used to play with them when they were kids. He also showed me these faceless dolls that were hand made and sewn from flour sacks. He called all dolls dollbabies. He did let slip a few times about some special dollbabies that his momma used to make and sell for special reasons. I think he was trying to impress me with the skill she had but he would tell me these dollbabies would have special qualities and be really lifelike and become their 'real' baby. I never really understood or took what he was saying to heart. It sounded like a long tale to me, but he swore it was true.

 

He grew up around Ashville, NC near the former Buckner, NC. RF, do you think this could be like the dollbabies you are describing?

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He grew up around Ashville, NC near the former Buckner, NC. RF, do you think this could be like the dollbabies you are describing?

 

Very possibly. Part of my family comes from that area of NC.

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My Mamaw said that sometimes a doll is just a doll, but under some circumstances a doll is created for a child to serve as a sort of spiritual guardian. The doll is usually made faceless, but bears other characteristics or clothing choices depending on the specific spirit it is intended to invoke or represent. Not every child was deemed to need this kind of protection. Some factor in the child's life triggered the making of the doll, which if memory serves her right is made very simply and kept in the child's room. The terms doll-baby or baby-doll are not particularly related to this lore, that she is aware of.

 

Don't know if that makes any sense, but there it is.

Jevne

 

This was our tradition as well..

 

 

Love the Mountain Lady RF.. she is awesome..

 

We are in the process of making corn husk dolls....

 

 

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I think it would also be good for transferring things like sickness and what not. I could see trying to do a little bit of a Dorian Gray experiment with this too, but that could be bad.

 

That kinda got me thinking if you applied this to self portraits and statues. Many of my family have busts and portraits, including myself, created by my grandmother. When my grandfather died his was a great source of comfort and still is. It would be fun to think of the possibilities if it was done with someones own hands. A bust could be dressed, a painting could be altered etc. A minature portrait could be taken anywhere. Only issue is perhaps the level of value that could be applied to them, risk of being stolen etc.

 

What I love most about this idea with the dolls is that it would likely help those who suffer from self neglect. People sacrifice a lot of time and care for their baby and when that baby happens to be you... pretty effective.

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Good Morning everyone!

 

I am totally enjoying this thread and this would be my first reply :wavex: lol!

I made a poppet last night, of my boss. Horrible, hateful, evil woman. I do not want to use my own blood to " wake her up ", it already has her hair in it. My question.... is she awake? I'm trying to get her out of the work place. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I have gone through almost each thread looking for answers and haven't came across much. Thank you all :)

 

Ryan.

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Maybe its just me but I see the poppet as a totally different subject to the soul doll. I see the doll as something invoked for personal protection but the poppet more concerned with sending out my intent to another.

 

In terms of your poppet Azel, I'm not completely sure what you mean by awaking it. (Thought of course our magical systems may work differently so I am certainly not saying you are wrong.) To me the poppet is a representation, a symbol. I enact my desires on the symbol and will that they be carried through to the source of the representation. If I were the one casting this spell, I would probably do something very visual like drawing the workplace, sprinkling salt round the boundaries and taping the poppet down outside. Or I may bind her and seal the poppet in a bag so she can do no harm to others. But there really are no right and wrongs here. Be guided by your own intuition and what you want the spell to achieve. And if she really is as horrible, hateful and evil as you say she is I'd pop a few stinging nettles in the bag and shake her up a bit.....

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Maybe its just me but I see the poppet as a totally different subject to the soul doll. I see the doll as something invoked for personal protection but the poppet more concerned with sending out my intent to another.

 

I agree, that are not necessarily any rights or wrongs, but Degu is right. Soul dolls and poppets are different things, though the idea of symbolizing someone or something is a common feature of the two.

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I am totally enjoying this thread and this would be my first reply :wavex: lol!

I made a poppet last night, of my boss. Horrible, hateful, evil woman. I do not want to use my own blood to " wake her up ", it already has her hair in it. My question.... is she awake? I'm trying to get her out of the work place. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I have gone through almost each thread looking for answers and haven't came across much. Thank you all :smile:

 

Ryan.

 

 

Congradulations on your first reply. I am in agreement with my Peers on this, Dear. :) I would also ask you regarding your Haitian Voodoo Path, that this is not a common practice regarding the usage of Poppets ? Just curious, I realize your Path is your own and may be private.

 

Regards,

Gypsy

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Good Morning everyone!

 

I am totally enjoying this thread and this would be my first reply :wavex: lol!

I made a poppet last night, of my boss. Horrible, hateful, evil woman. I do not want to use my own blood to " wake her up ", it already has her hair in it. My question.... is she awake? I'm trying to get her out of the work place. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I have gone through almost each thread looking for answers and haven't came across much. Thank you all :smile:

 

Ryan.

 

I would say it is not awake if you have not awoken it. I would also say that if it is to represent this woman it would need to be, and given direction. I would say that to actually represent her it would have to have "life". And I,personally, wouldn't add my own DNA to a poppet or any spell unless I was the target.

 

M

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I would say it is not awake if you have not awoken it. I would also say that if it is to represent this woman it would need to be, and given direction. I would say that to actually represent her it would have to have "life". And I,personally, wouldn't add my own DNA to a poppet or any spell unless I was the target.

 

M

 

I agree with Michele here. I would never put my DNA into a poppet that I was not intending to use on myself.

As far as waking the poppet. I literally breathe life into mine, usually.

Or depending on the circumstance I have "resurrected" some poppets by interment in a grave for a set number if days, and then I resurrect the coffin I have the poppet buried in. I remove the poppet and then breathe life back into it.

 

 

That is completely different from how I would handle a soul doll. I still have never fashioned a soul doll.

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Damn. If I have to type this response one more time I'm going to smack my computer, lol. I agree that breathing life into something is how to awaken a poppet. The bible (often considered a type of grimoire of the Xtian mythology) even has this in it - how the "poppets" of god that he made to run his little doll-house paradise were merely clay dolls until life was "breathed" into them. And then there's also the lesson of programming something correctly so nothing else can interfere and your little poppets don't get their own ideas and run amok and escape their doll-house paradise and take over. Guess god never read "Mutiny on the Bounty" lol.

 

M

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Bumping this topic because I have been working closely with creating my own spirit doll recently. I've been experimenting with using the doll as an emotions exchange, storing positive feelings and reclaiming them when needed. I've invested the doll with my own blood and hair and made her clothing from fabric I have worn myself to create a bond between us. I have also shared my name with her as I believe this will enhance the connection between us. I'm interested in progressing this further by creating another doll to house my more negative emotions - to represent my more "shadow" side and to store the feelings I would draw upon for more aggressive workings. Anyone any experience of this? 

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I have in the past stored things, and I think a doll for storing emotions may be a good way to really get to know one's self, but, ultimately, I think our experiences and their associated lessons are stored within us. As long as the lesson is understood then I think that information is already available in memory, including past understandings from those who have gone on before us if one has access to "collective memory". If I need to do a working for something for which I need anger, then chances are I am already angry. Personally, I don't like to do things in an emotional state, but the feeling should be there already. I do think if one has something they need to explore, and it is too close to home or too painful to be objective, then the psychological act of "storing" the memory for objective exploration could be helpful (this is much like how I will write a story about a character who is dealing with something that I am going through but I am not objective enough to be able to deal with it in a non-reactional state, so I have the characters deal with it, which removes my emotions from the situation and gives me a clearer head). 

 

I have a piece of willow that I talk to about very emotional issues, and just the talking through it often helps, and she also houses a spirit that is very helpful in guidance. Not in fixing or making it all go away, for that is not her nature, but in helping me to know and remember that I'm not the only one to ever experience xyz and that others before me have gone through this and survived, and overcome, etc., and how they did it. This piece of wood I have, incidentally, enclosed in a doll. It makes it easier to carry in mundane places. She is not huge and it's easy to hang her from a paperclip by my desk if I feel the need for her guidance and/or company. But her heart and soul and memory is not specifically mine, her heart is willow and her memory is of those who have ever called upon the willow for guidance.

 

M

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Bumping this topic because I have been working closely with creating my own spirit doll recently. I've been experimenting with using the doll as an emotions exchange, storing positive feelings and reclaiming them when needed. I've invested the doll with my own blood and hair and made her clothing from fabric I have worn myself to create a bond between us. I have also shared my name with her as I believe this will enhance the connection between us. I'm interested in progressing this further by creating another doll to house my more negative emotions - to represent my more "shadow" side and to store the feelings I would draw upon for more aggressive workings. Anyone any experience of this? 

 

 

Yes, but not from a personal, storage standpoint, but from a manipulation standpoint.  If you can put it in and draw it out, other people can to.  Not a doll in the situation I am thinking of, but still a storage vessel for emotional energy.  Most people do not know anyone who would care to or have the capacity to mess with them in that manner, but you might want to guard the holy living hell out of any object that you have purposely aligned so closely to yourself.  Sharing your name with the doll is enough, alone, to make it and you vulnerable. 

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Bumping this topic because I have been working closely with creating my own spirit doll recently. I've been experimenting with using the doll as an emotions exchange, storing positive feelings and reclaiming them when needed. I've invested the doll with my own blood and hair and made her clothing from fabric I have worn myself to create a bond between us. I have also shared my name with her as I believe this will enhance the connection between us. I'm interested in progressing this further by creating another doll to house my more negative emotions - to represent my more "shadow" side and to store the feelings I would draw upon for more aggressive workings. Anyone any experience of this? 

 

 

Yes, but not from a personal, storage standpoint, but from a manipulation standpoint.  If you can put it in and draw it out, other people can to.  Not a doll in the situation I am thinking of, but still a storage vessel for emotional energy.  Most people do not know anyone who would care to or have the capacity to mess with them in that manner, but you might want to guard the holy living hell out of any object that you have purposely aligned so closely to yourself.  Sharing your name with the doll is enough, alone, to make it and you vulnerable. 

 

 

 

 

Essential you are making a poppet of your shadow side.  To me, I am leery of separating parts of myself in that way or tying parts of myself to an object.  Especially if its in an object that is vulnerable to the ire and manipulation of others.  I would not do it to other spirits and definitely not myself. 

 

 Recently, I have had a poppet of myself made by an in-law whom I recognize as being one to wield magic unconsciously.  This poppet she made, is forever frozen in her crocheted wedding dress next to her partner.  This scared the bejessus out of me because to me, this was potent magic cast on my partner and I to stay together, an etheric tie that goes beyond that of marriage which can be a gift or curse depending on how the relationship goes. I have since been given the doll pair as a gift and I know I will have have to guard that doll pair from others that know how to influence such things. It is a heavy burden that I would have not chosen to have. I absolutely do not like having such a vulnerability.  That said, I pity the person that tries to mess with the dolls. :)  Vulnerabilities can turn in to great hindrances or great strengths. Something of this caliber takes great responsibility and is, to me, akin to having a child.  

 

So if this is what you are in to, I say be very careful and diligent. 

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Essential you are making a poppet of your shadow side.  To me, I am leery of separating parts of myself in that way or tying parts of myself to an object.  Especially if its in an object that is vulnerable to the ire and manipulation of others.  I would not do it to other spirits and definitely not myself. 

 

 

Looking at it objectively, I don't think I have anything to gain by using different dolls for different parts of myself. I can understand what you mean WR about separating parts of yourself and I can see where you're coming from. Possibly it would have the effect of weakening the whole which would cause obvious concern for a witch. I also wonder if its just too simplistic to try and demarcate individual parts of a person, human emotions are too complex a blend. I think I will achieve more by infusing the bond between myself and my doll with the essence of who I am instead of trying to pull out separate strands of my personality.

 

On a side note, this whole experience has been interesting in terms of the very tangible nature of the magic. In the blood awakening ritual, I noticed the doll's eyes moving from side to side and blinking. Didn't think much of it until I noticed the day after that the dolls eyes are actually fixed and painted on with no movable parts...  Admittedly that was a little creepy.

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I cannot tell if you missed the point, DG, or just chose not to focus on the concern. So, you made or have a poppet, gave it you name, put your clothe on it, awoke it with your blood, and tied it to your emotions? Keep talking. I mean I like you right now, and you do not have anythiing I want, but I like to keep my options open.

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Out of curiosity DG, if you're the one who made it, how did you "notice" a few days later that the eyes were fixed and painted on?  Didn't you do this - or did you get someone else to?

 

 

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