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About Belle

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  • How familiar are you with witchcraft?
    I am familiar with aspects of witchcraft. Strictly speaking, I do not label what I do but traditional witchcraft is the closest descriptor. I do energy work, or magic. I do spells, through words, art, and action.
  • Have you explored other paths?
    Yes. I am also an astrologer. Not an expert but intermediate. I use astrology as a tool but it is not my calling.
  • Have you ever worked with Traditional Witchcraft?
    I believe I have. I just don't call it that.

    I do not like to be associated with 'wicca' though they do many similar things. As you say, that is a religion and I am not on that page.
  • What does Traditional Witchcraft mean to you?
    I think it is the natural way that people have been shown to work with the forces that be. Everybody has their own way of doing it, but I think the true knowledge comes from within. We all have our stories and legends that show us the way. Traditionally we were guided to do this work. It's not a choice, or something you can learn from reading a book. It's a way of life.
  • How long have you worked with witchcraft in general?
    My whole life, but formally for almost 6 years. I have guardians and they have trained me. I mostly have learned from within, though I am guided along the way to read, study, interact...etc... I have learned how to work with magic, not by choice but this is what I do. I only do what is needed, not what I would personally prefer. I can speak with my guardians but mostly I simply know what to do.
  • What brought you to our site?
    I don't know. I was guided of course. I am not much of a forum person but I feel like I need support. It's not easy being different all by myself.
  • What do you expect to get from this site, and what do you expect to contribute to this forum?
    I do not know. I know things, and I expect that there are things for me to learn. I write well and if this the right place for me to be, then I would be able to contribute and interact.
  • Do you belong to any other online witchcraft sites?
    No
  • What are your strongest points in witchcraft?
    I am very good at visualization and the concept of correspondence. I use this process with myself and others to create change. I can do healing, when appropriate and I have methods that are unique to me. I know what to do when the time comes to do something. When I drive, I know when to change lanes and when to turn and I will be lead to the place I need to be. That may not be defined as witchcraft but I don't what else to call it. I was thoroughly taught to use the phases of the moon and to develop a competency in astrology which I use for the purposes of the energy work, and not for divination.
  • What are your weakest points in witchcraft?
    I am probably not a witch...afterall, what's in a label, but I do use broomsticks and familiars and altars, but not so much candles and incense, though I do use potions and brews, just not in the traditional way.....I might not fit in.

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  1. You could use it however you want. I know that your approach is different then mine, so you would use in a way that makes sense to you. If you don't have the exact time of birth, then you cannot look at houses. Often people will say 'I was born in the morning' or some unknown time. That is useless. If they don't know the exact time then you can't use vague information to set up a chart. But you can look at the aspects between the planets, and that is a big part of the picture. I set up a noon chart because you want to know the relative position of the moon and what sign it is in. The moon moves fast, about 8 degrees a day. With a noon chart you know that the moon is within approximately 4 degrees of the placement that is shown on the noon chart and hopefully you can determine the sign and the aspects will be close enough to get a good picture. The main thing I look at for the manipulation is the aspects. For example, I don't usually use asteroids but I might if someone needs a blue line, and an asteroid can be found to provide support. I use Astro,com extended chart selection because are many options available. In that format the squares and oppositions are red, and the sextiles and trines are blue. I mostly care about how the planets interact with each other. Who are the friends and foes and how can I make them get along. I do know astrology and I observe the rules as I understand them, but subconsciously I know more then I can comprehend so by using the chart as a mandala you are working with the energy both consciously and subconsciously. That is basically how I use it for magic. As for interpretation and synthesis I would look at what is interesting to me. Some charts are frankly boring and I don't care anything about where their planets are, while i find other charts to be very interesting. With just a sun sign/age I don't invest much energy into that. I will look at the ephemeris to see approximately where their planets are and I don't even draw up a chart. If I had nothing at all, I could use a horary technique and look at the chart of the moment. Really I am not good at horary but I know the simple rules. One of the accepted rules is that the chart is erected for the time the astrologer receives the question. I could look at that chart and treat it as a horary. This is just to absorb the energy, and the act of simply thinking about it is 'doing something'. Another trick is to use a composite chart to combine the energies of 2 people...I personally don't use a Composite chart much for interpretation. I don't care about it but combining the energy of 2 people, is a symbolic way to do that. These techniques work for me because I was taught to use it this way. As you probably are aware I am one who was entirely taught from within. My guardians trained me so they will honor the techniques that we use and facilitate the 'magic'...Of course I had to study and learn in the usual way but the way I apply is as I was taught. I don't use the astrology for timing usually. Occasionally I will do something when an aspect in the sky is exact if it feels important. If timing is a concern I would pay attention to the current planetary conditions. This is just one tool I use. It is useful in many different ways. When you are doing a spell and you want to work with a person that you have never met and you have no name or information except their birthchart then you have their unique energy signature. That is useful. I am sure that you don't need anything to know exactly who you are working with. I don't either. I know who they are and can single them out without any information except the knowledge that 'that is them'..but the astrology is better then any other identifying information. If I wanted to correct neptune energy, which is Pisces or the 12th house, I would use Saturn. Neptune dissolves, Saturn rebuilds. I always want to find a Neptune/Saturn connection because the Neptune needs the structure that Saturn provides. So I would try and find a connection. When looking at transits sometimes the picture is bleak, but you can see when things will get better, and find a way to look on the bright side. I might make a suggestion and say 'that sucks but you have that planet well placed in your natal chart so you can handle it"..By making that suggestion then it inspires the planetary energy of the native to step up to the plate and do it's duty as per the natal promise. Some of this might sound off the wall and maybe it is, but it works for me. It could work for you and I am sure you would develop your own system that has the integrity that you require.
  2. This is an article about synthesis http://www.mountainastrologer.com/standards/new_to_astro/beginners/11.html The planetary energy and the person's energy are the same thing at least they are as perceived in that way. There is more to it then I consciously understand. I can sense the energies and how they interact.. I feel it as a whole, but sometimes it is hard to explain what I feel. It isn't necessary for me to do that. If I see a problem with the chart then I will look for a way to support the problem and look for repeating themes. It is sort of like a puzzle. Sometimes I might use it as a tag lock, or not. ...I delete and don't hoard charts. I want the correct natal chart but sometimes I can't have that so I will settle for less. The general time period would show where most of the planets are and what some of them are doing. ...If I have nothing then I can use the chart of the moment. If I look at a chart because a person is having a problem then I want to help them. I will see if I can find out what is causing the problem and look for helpful aspects. Sometimes the news is that they are going to have to wait it out. Problems in the chart have to be adapted. If there is a T[ square then you hope to find supporting aspects to the planets involved. If I can't find them then I have to find a different way to provide support. That is how I was trained. Even just using the chart as a mandala is useful. I don't make any guarantees but this method is important for my work. That answers a few questions but I can't really answer the why, or the how. There is a lot more to it then I can get into
  3. Aurelian, I was like you, in that I was guided to learn astrology before I started doing magic. I obsessed over the astrology for about 2 years, and then things changed and the magic training began. I have guardians that guide me, but I was not conscious of that when I took up the astrology. I was going to be an expert and become certified and devote my life to it. That didn't happen but I learned what I needed to know. I also don't read cards because I was guided away from that. I had an interest but I was never motivated to pursue it. The way I use astrology for magic is not for timing but for reading the energy. If I have someones chart then I can see, feel, and sense the energy, as a map of the psyche. If there is a problem with the chart or with the person then I can manipulate the energy. Some people use blood or hair or DNA in their spells, but if I have the map, that is the key to the kingdom. It works best if I have an accurate chart but even having a basic idea of where the planets are is enough. So if I know a person's age and sunsign, that's adequate. I can almost feel it now without a chart. I am not quite there, but it is coming together. If I don't have a chart then I can use a horary technique. That is how I use astrology for magic. This wouldn't work for everybody because we all have our ways. This works well for me and that's how I use it. The other thing that is critical is how motivated you are to learn astrology. You have to be interested. If it isn't interesting to you, then you probably don't need to know it. If you can't apply it in a useful way then it isn't necessary to learn. Your time and effort is better applied towards the techniques that work for you. I can synthesize a chart and tell somebody about themselves, things they already know. That is kind of pointless because they can look up their chart online and explaining the astrology to someone who knows nothing about it is difficult and not something I want to do. If there is a problem that I am trying to address then I will look at what seems pertinent and I will explain as much as I feel is necessary but I won't go through every planet and aspect because I don't want to. They can look it up. If I want to look at somebody's chart for my own purposes then I will give them a little reading because that is only polite.
  4. @Aurelian..I understand. That is not real astrology, though simple sun sign astrology is a place to start. Understanding the energies of the signs and the planets and the houses, elements, modalities and aspects takes a long time to really understand. I studied everything and it was still a confusing mass of contradictions. It takes time to really get a feel for it and be able to synthesize well. Some people are naturally better at it and I am not. I had to struggle and it took years for it all to come together as a cohesive whole. I am competent, but not a pro but I also don't want to overanalyze. I sometimes use electional astrology but I usually just pay attention to the natal chart, synastry and what is going on right now. I think electional astrology is a good tool for timing but I am very guided and that is how I know when to act, but I noticed that I was doing special rituals 3 days before the new moon. I didn't pay attention to the moon phases but I would always find myself driving out to the ocean, and it took a while for me to notice that date was always 3 days before the new moon. I don't know why but that is the high power day of the month for me. and it doesn't seem to matter what kind of spell I am working on. The full moon is useful too but it packs less of a punch because it is an opposition rather then a conjunction. I never used the phases of the moon because I read something in a book. I noticed a pattern, and it probably took a long time for the penny to drop. When I started learning astrology I kind of ignored the elements because I thought they were boring. That is fluffy, but you have to start somewhere. Eventually I learned that yes, the elements are very important, and if you just know about that, and a little bit about the sun signs then you can use it. It won't make you an expert or an authority but that little bit of understanding is better then no understanding. If you start out fluffy but work your puffy little tail off then you will learn.
  5. What is new age fluffy astrology? Is using modern rulers instead of traditional rulers fluffy? I do astrology and it is properly done and I follow the rules, but I use the techniques that work for me. I think, first steps is learning how to do astrology, then you can explore the various techniques, such as electional or horary and astrocartography and there are many ways to approach it. You start with the basics and branch out from there. First you have to learn to read, before you go to the library and choose your book. The post was about getting started with astrology. I thought she was a beginner, so one would start at the beginning.
  6. I use regular western astrology for magic..
  7. I always recommend this site for beginners Venus Group https://grupovenus.com/personasi.asp?nue It is easy to use and has a lot of free interpretations. The best site to use for calculating charts is Astro.com http://www.astro.com/ They also have a lot of articles about astrology. They have a good forum as well. Astrology weekly has a good forum. There are a lot of teaching sites on the internet, and youtube videos. This is a good book for quick reference to keywords. If you could just have one book, this is quite helpful https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CABC2LC/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1 It is very complicated and a lot of work to learn how to properly interpret a chart. You have to be interested and motivated to learn. I was strongly guided to learn astrology and I use it for the energy work and it is a very useful tool. I never learned to read cards, I was interested but I was guided away from the cards, and to the astrology. It is very helpful, and I use it all the time.
  8. I loved that show when I was little. It was the first show I remember watching. I would buy that if the recipes were any good. For a period of time I had to cook everything in the crock pot..It was related to some kind of spell. You can adapt most anything to work in a crockpot.
  9. I used to read all the time, I was a book-a-holic. My husband at the time would lecture me about reading certain classics that he read and how I should read them and be a big smartypants like him. I didn't want to read them and I didn't have to read them and finally I told him to 'shut up' because I had only observed him to have read a single book in 20 years. All his 'big reading' had been done in college. He never brought that topic up again. That was off topic, sorry..As for differences in self since beginning to practice, they are extreme. I couldn't even answer that question.
  10. Thank you Duchess! I thought I was the only one, or rather the only one who would admit it.
  11. I looked up the word petard, so I know what it means. But to me it sounds like a leotard, and I have this mental image. It is quite comical.
  12. Thank you. I probably should have known that but I am not a big Shakespeare fan. It is probably blasphemous to admit that.
  13. I like the phrase "Hoisted by their own petard"...Is that an English phrase or is it a Mistflower phrase?
  14. I had the 5000 Spells book. I never did a spell from it but I think it was a symbolic thing, to own the book. For me, owning the book meant that I had 5000 spells... That book itself was a spell.
  15. I have one room that is called the pirate room.. It used to be a kitchen but it is long and narrow. It is supposed to be like a ship's galley...Yellow walls but one light is burned out. Just one room represents the ship but I understand the symbolism. I like that you think of your house as a ship. It's a vessel...
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