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  1. Wexter- that's food for thought, absolutely there have been evil doctors, I wasn't thinking about it at the time, but Mengele might be at the top of the list. Demons of the western religion are fallen angels, but what about other religions that have demons? I've never thought about it. So I was reading a -very- brief introductory article about common Hindu themes, including gods and demons and the article describes their relationship as necessary, complementary forces. Not that this justifies Mengele, may he rot for an eternity, but the idea of demons being well, necessary to maintain balance, an idea that would be rejected pretty quickly in most churches. I do like where you're going with the idea of many things being misidentified as demons throughout history, that's seems pretty likely. And as far as evil goes, I've encountered some spirits that are absolutely sinister, others that are the sludge of the worlds existing in the nastiest litter corners, still others that survive in dark places but are perfectly innocent by nature. But I can say I've never met anything truly evil, not to say it isn't there, but for me and my small experience, I haven't seen it yet. Of course, I haven't ever met Mengele either. Michele- that's a good idea, I would imagine that there is plenty of religious text warning about the nefarious demons of hell. This text however was written by someone to be used more like a set of instructions to "bind" or force any of the 72 demons listed into a circle to at least listen to you for a period of time if they refuse to help. Something tells me if anyone tried to someone a demon and if anyone answered, they were not too thrilled about being temporarily trapped and were probably not too cooperative. The author is supposed to be anonymous for good reason, the author would have been (and may still have been) killed for it. Moondark- I was thrilled when you posted the root words and meaning for this. Root languages really do solve all of my mysteries- I'm a wildlife biology major and taxonomy is more or less my life. True to form, the Latin, or Greek, as it happens to be today, never lies. The idea of eudemons and cadodemons seems to be a concept that survives more in Eastern religions, but there it is again, ye ole Star Wars ethics at play in your classic battle of good and "evil" juxtaposed. It would also make sense that demons, who as spirits alone maybe originally had no specific connotation, were literally demonized (haha punny, right? No? Okay) as the Greek pagan religions were given the boot and early Christianity took over. This is great discussion :) my mind is officially being blown haha
  2. Alrighty then, I am not sure if this is appropriately placed or not- I would like to ask anyone who works with or studies the subject about the nature of this creature (real or not, I am not really considering that so much as "the nature of the beast"). I just finished reading The Lesser Key of Solomon and have questions about some of the demons he describes. I go back and forth on these 5 part writings, I've only read "Goetia" so far, and I go back and forth because yes it was written in the 1560s, but also, it was written in the 1560s, a time when people were killed based on whether or not they would sink or float. So while I'm not sure how to handle the piece, I want to go beyond the literature into the stories- I see that there is a lot of Hebrew letters, but most of these demons I can't find any reference to in Judeo or Christian texts, only referenced in the grimoire. This is not a case to favor or disfavor anyone's belief, but I do have questions, and this is entirely YOUR opinion I'm seeking, on how you define the nature of a "demon". I say "demon", because, well, google defines a demon as this: de·mon1 ˈdēmən/noun 1. an evil spirit or devil, especially one thought to possess a person or act as a tormentor in hell. And according to the description of some demons in this text, that definition doesn't really seem to apply universally. My main curiosity is Buer. A demon described as being a master of logic, wisdom, healing arts, knowledge of plants and herbs and one who provides excellent familiars to those who he guides. Healing arts are not traditionally associated with "evil" which is why I have elected to adopt the word "dark" instead. What is your take not only this text, but the idea of demons on the whole if you follow the idea of their existence?
  3. Thank you! I will definitely check that out!
  4. Wow that is intense! I am curious about it too. More for satiating a reader's curiosity over any intent to contact someone/something. I am wondering though for anyone whose read this book, which edition did you purchase? I can not make a decision. I see a lot of editions by Aleister Crowley and MacGregor Mathers that are significantly cheaper (the price drops from $40ish- $6ish) vs the more expensive edition by Joseph Peterson from 2001. I wouldn't mind reading an edition that's been rewritten for modern readers, however if they aren't of the same quality I would like to know. If you have any comments on either edition, please share :smile: EDIT: Ohh I think I see the price difference now. Crowley and Mathers published only portions of this text vs Peterson who published it entirely in one volume? Still curious on the versions y'all have read :)
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