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#1 The Exile

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 10:33 PM

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Further research in pre Wicca Gerald Gardner


Today I also recieved another book in the mail. This book was ordered by Sarasuperid and sent to me.

Thank you Sara ! --- A much needed research tool.


Wiccan Roots - Gerald Gardner and the Modern Witchcraft Revival by Philip Heselton


Now hold that thought ! I'm not a Wiccan and I am not trying to promote it to you.


My interest is that I'm interested in finding out names of people that met or were associated with Gerald Gardner from 1939 when he came back to England and was living in Highcliffe near the New Forest to about 1959 when Monica English, a Traditional Witch, who became a member of Gerald Gardner coven and to a lesser degree the people he knew til the time of his death.

I need to find more connections to the New Forest and to other people that he met that could have been Traditional Witches.

I glanced through the book and it looks like Philip Heselton done a lot of researches into the early period. His book was dated 2000. Today there are many more records available to check that he probably didn't have access to back then.

But Sara mentioned that there is a later biography on Gerald Gardner by Philip Heselton that came out later. Might be prudent for me to get a copy of that book too.


Philip Heselton mentioned:

"Many have claimed that writers such as Charles Godfrey Leland and Margaret Murray introduced the idea that witches formed themselves into groups, although much has recently been written about traditions of witchcraft, very frequently with a strong hereditary component, which claim to go back much further. These have, for the most part, yet to be properly investigated, but it seems a possibility that the tradition with which I will be dealing was just one of many."





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I will be check through the book and check out the names and hopefully some more research will come on here.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:20 AM

I've just been re-reading Witchcraft Today and it is clear enough to me that Gardner wasn't as wedded to the Margaret Murray thesis so far as seems to be usually assumed. He points out that "witchcraft" in the broad sense is universal and ancient; but speculates that the particular tradition he was intitiated into may have come to England from Italy as late as the reign of Elizabeth I.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 09:05 PM

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Copied the post from the newspaper article thread:

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There are a few newspaper articles here http://www.thewica.co.uk/Others.htm
In an uncertain world nice its to see that British newspaper journalism doesn't change ;)



Thanks Spinney for the link to this site. I see on the page on Gerald Gardner some articles too.

I will copy this link on that thread on Gerald Gardner that I recently created.

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And the link to the Gerald Gardner page:

It has links to newspaper articles that mentioned about Gerald Gardner

http://www.thewica.c...d%20Gardner.htm

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 11:52 PM

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Wiccan Roots - by Philip Heselton



Part I:

A survey of the first thirteen chapters.

As I mentioned before that my main reason for reading the book is to see if I can find some information or clues that can be further checked on. Mainly names of people that perhaps might of been Traditional Witches and do further research on them.

This book was published in 2000, since that time a lot more different type of records are available to check that were probably not available at the time Philip Heselton did his research. Don't think much stuff was online back in 2000.



As for the book, I find that Philip Heselton writes very clearly and easy to read and makes it interesting to read.

He doesn't write overly scholarly with stuffy words like some other authors write.





Chapter One - Gerald Brosseau Gardner

This chapter is about Gerald Gardner's life from his birth to the point before he came back to England in the late 1930's.

Visits Home - In 1905 he made acquaintance of the Surgenson family - Ted and Nellie and her sister Gertrude. The family had "a faint and inconclusive interest in the occult", with Edith , another sister of Nellie, being a palmist and crystal gazer.

Gardner's grandfather, Joseph Gardner (1791-1865). It was rumoured that he kept a second and happier home with a woman by the name of Ann "somewhere up north". Gerald learned had learned about this because, through the Surgensons, he had met a doctor and his sister with the surname Gardner who turned out to be the children of Joseph and Ann.

He was informed that Ann was a witch and "had witchpower" and that she used to take Joseph "up into the hills for secret meetings and horrible rites". Strange things were supposed to have gone on.

"everyone said that Gerald was very much like his Grandfather."

1927 - Gardner visited 3 mediums at the London Spiritual Alliance. One may have been Hewart Mackenzie.

1932 - Friends, McAlpine Woods and Sir Flinders Petrie an archeologist

Gardner went back to England worked on digs, met Keiller who was working on excavations at Avebury and Windmill Hill.

1936 - Palestine - J. L. Starkey director of excavation





Chapter Two - Naturism and the New Forest

He was introduced to a nudist club in Finchley…. He made many friends there

Lotus League at Cardew House, 92 Friern Park, Finchley, London N12. Proprietor Mrs. Denise Bedingfield. Under the wing of the Sun Bathing Society.

Gardner in this place met people that had faint occult interest: fortune telling, palmistry, astrology, vague spiritualism



Gardner joined Folk-Lore Society in March 1939 and was sponsored by Dr. Hildburgh

1939 - Gardner was looking out to move into the country. Bracelin states that "The only place in England where he had friends was in the region of the New Forest"

New Forest Club - opened on 1st May 1934 in the woods and grounds of "Forest View", West Moors, Dorset on the fringes of the New Forest

Two proprietors - Leonard Lloyd and J. W. Joseph.

Then moved to a bigger location at Rushford Warren, Mudeford on the shores of Christchurch Harbour

Nearby was Inveravon Guest Home, Centre for Spiritual Healing.

The club was bombed in September 1940 and closed permanently afterwards.



Southridge - was on the corner of Highland Avenue and Elphinstone Road in Highcliffe.

A builder, A. V. Ridout lived next door to Gardner did a lot of work expanding the home to include a Sun Lounge and Garage as well as repairs.

Gardner started to attend meeting s of the Rosicrucian Order Crotona Fellowship at their Ashrama Hall at Somerford near Christchurch.





Chapter Three - A Goddess Arrives

About the time when Gerald Gardner made his book "A Goddess Arrives"





Chapter Four - The Rosicrucians and Crotona Fellowship

George Alexander Sullivan - born 24th September 1890 at 14 Elm Grove, West Derby, Liverpool, son of Catherine Sullivan and her husband Charles Washington Sullivan, a ship's steward.

Married in 1915

Possible ancestor Charles Mathews (1776-1835) and Charles James Mathews (1803-1878) booksellers, actors, etc.

Philip Heselton in 2000 states that he haven't done the necessary research to connect them.

The Crotona Fellowship

Mabel Beasant-Scott brought with her several Co-Masons when she resigned from a previous organization and joined the Crotona Fellowship.





Chapter Five - Activities at the Ashrama

Catherine Emily Chalk and her husband, Thomas Arthur Chalk (1861-1931) a major in WWI had built a house Meadow Way on Somerford Road in Christchurch

Catherine Chalk been born about 1864 being interested in esoteric matters, had become very knowledgeable about theatre and particularly Shakespeare. Believed that Francis Bacon wrote them and this is probably how she knew about Sullivan.

From 1930, a group of local Crotona fellowship members, probably mostly recruited by Catherine Chalk herself and possibly including Luther William Newby Stubbs, the schoolmaster at Highcliffe started to meet regularly at the King's Arms in Christchurch.

Catherine had the Ashrama hall built and completed by 1936.

Members of the Crotona Fellowship:

Ivy Veronica Keen born in Prescot, near Liverpool on 26 July 1901 called Francesca Keen.

Mabel Besant-Scott, known as Mabs

Ailsie D Hall - was Secretary of the Fellowship and Assistant Manager of the Theatre until 1939.

Edith Woodford Grimes

Luther William Newby Stubbs

E. Marshall Harvey

Ivor and Hilda Baker

W. Martin Andrew

Rene Lyon Clark

David and Gladys Brown

Rhona Perreau

Peter Caddy - Nora Meidling

Cyril (Jim) Barnes - Elizabeth Meidling

Other performers in the plays: Peggy Baker, Peter Brown, E. G. Chalk, Leslie Davies, Archibald Deall, J. Donaldson-Palmer, Harry Dunn, Major C.F.J. Galloway, E. Gilholey, Dorothy Gray, Gavin M. Harris, Elza Irmgarde, Robert and Will Sawkins, Lea Shapiro, W. Lumisden Strange, A. C. Whitehorn and Eveline Wyatt.





Chapter Six - The First Rosicrucian Theatre in England

In January 1940, Gerald Gardner played a monk in Sullivan's play "The Demon Monk".

Theatre closed.

George Alexander Sullivan died in 1942.





Chapter Seven - Mabs and the Co-Masons

Mabel Emily Besant Scott born 1870, daughter of freethinker Annie Besant and Rev. Frank Besant.

Her mother, Annie Besant, was a prominent British socialist, Theosophist, women's rights activist, writer and orator and supporter of Irish and Indian self rule.





Chapter Eight - The Most Interesting Element…

1935-6 Co-Masons in Southampton. Chairman was Susie Mary Mason, and she lived with her brother, Ernest William Mason. Another sister Rosetta Fudge. They were in a play held at Ashrama Hall in August 1937 .

They lived at Beechwood, 1 Osborne Road, Portswood, Southampton



William Mason born 1831 Hampshire

Married Mary Workman born 1834 Monmouth

Children born Southampton and Hampshire



Toothill near Southampton, in 1881 most common surname was Mason.

Toothill was supposedly a witch meeting place.

Philip Heselton mentioned that he hasn't gone back further on William Mason (born 1831) and has not yet make a connection from William Mason to the Masons of Toothill.





Chapter Nine - Dafo

In this chapter Philip Heselton deals with Edith Woodford-Grimes life history, etc.

Edith Rose Wray was born in Malton in Yorkshire at 5 Mill Cottage, off Castlegate, on 18th December 1887. Daughter of Caroline Harrison and William Henry Wray.

The house is adjacent to the old Roman fort of Derventio and is close to Lady Well, a natural spring which provided the town's water.

A spring dedicated to the Goddess of the Old Religion. Also the area she was born is one which is strong in traditions of witchcraft.





Chapter Ten - Dorothy St. Quintin Clutterbuck

Contains information on some of the places where her ancestors lived and about her life.

Family obtain the Chewton Mill House around 1908.

Then it goes in detail about Rupert Fordham.

Then the house Latimers was purchased in 1933.

Dorothy died in 1951.





Chapter Eleven - Dorothy's diaries

Philip Hesleton goes in details about Dorothy's Diary. Showing that there is hardly any Christian stuff in there. Heselton shows that the writings of Dorothy shows more Pagan stuff than others. Mostly about nature.

There is an entry for each day for the two years. It is also illustrated with small watercolour sketches by her friend, Christine Maud Wells (1885-1969).

She was an Associate of the British Watercolour Society (ABWS). She was a pupil of Sickert at the R.A. and whilst she had lived at Dorchester at some time in her life, she was, in the 1940s, living with her father in New Milton. She was known as a painter of watercolours of all aspects of the New Forest, and of painting large houses on commission, such as Walhampton, near Lymington. She was also an etcher and illustrator of children's books. She taught at local schools.





Chapter Twelve - Initiation

About Gardner's initiation. He said:

The witches tell me: "The law always has been that power must be passed from man to woman or from woman to man, the only exception being when a mother initiates her daughter or a father his son, because they are a part of themselves."

The reason is that great love is apt to occur between people who go through the rites together.





Chapter Thirteen - Old Dorothy - High Priestess or Red Herring

Philip Heselton debates the issue if Old Dorothy was a witch or not, etc.



The Mill House was mostly empty at the time when Dorothy and Rupert Fordham were at the house Latimer.

Philip Heselton believes the initiation took place at the Mill House. The absence of any residents at the Mill House and its relative isolation made it ideal for both indoor and outdoor rituals.

Walter Lloyd was kept on for maintenance and gardening purposes at the Mill house.




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Posted 15 October 2012 - 02:45 AM

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Wiccan Roots - by Philip Heselton



Part II:


Chapter Fourteen - The New Forest Coven ?



This chapter is interesting as it covers some people that were associated with Dorothy Clutterbuck.



Bracelin states clearly that the witches that Gardner got to know "had discovered an old Coven…."


It may well be that the witches themselves did not use the word "coven", which was only used traditionally in Scotland. It was only following the publication of Margaret Murray's The Witch Cult in western Europe in 1921 that the word gained a wider currency. It is likely that Gardner, telling the story in 1959 or 1960, used it because it had by then come into common use.


Mason family and Edith Woodford-Grimes… We don't know how they met them, but witches often talk of a spark of recognition when they meet another witch and, without introduction, can know that they are also members of the Craft.


Bracelin then quotes Gardner's own words when he writes: "I found that Old Dorothy and some like her, plus a number of New Forest people, had kept the light shining."


One possibility might be near-neighbours of Dorothy


Katherine Louise Oldmeadow (10th June 1878 - 8th July 1963) and her sister, Ann Eliza Oldmeadow (30th May 1875 - 17th July 1951) were the youngest of nine children of George and Annie Oldmeadow. They were born in Chester were George was a Deputy Chief Constable. Arthur Lawrie was married to Edith Mary, an older sister of the Oldmeadows.


Dorothy gave her diaries for 1942 and 1943 to them when she died.


Katherine Oldmeadow was a children's author. One book was titled "The Witch of Whitestones". While the book was about a schoolgirl that pretended to be a witch, it contains definite hints that the author believed that witchcraft still existed and that she knew somewhat more about magic and witchcraft than she was admitting.


Another book that stands out is "The Folklore of Herbs" published in 1946.


From her obituary in 1963:


"Miss Oldmeadows had many friends among gypsies, in whom she took a great interest and when she wrote a book about herbs - another subject in which she took a great interest - they were able to supply her with some of the materials for the book."


Gypsies had been part of the New Forest, probably for hundreds of years. They are, of course, by tradition nomadic, but the settlements of Thorney Hill, between Highcliffe and Burley, has for many years been the traditional site where Gypsies settled.


The Folklore of Herbs includes a chapter on "Witches: Black and White" where the author writes of witches as healers and that witches always had herb gardens.


In the same chapter the author writes, revealingly: "The white witch of today still holds queer belief…" which certainly seems to imply that she knew some witches.


And in a later chapter she suggests planting a garden with solar herbs, and including a sun dial "to represent the Deity of the garden."


Arthur Lawrie was an actor, producer, and playwright. He wrote the play "Before the Moon Rose."


Dorothy writes of him:


"Then he could also tell your fate, if it were dark or bright, He only has to hold your hand, for he has second sight." 28 March 1942.



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Posted 15 October 2012 - 10:40 AM

An interesting link for background on the New Forest gypsies (and I think it is clear by now that gypsies are crucual here)is Frank Cuttriss' Romany Life (1915), the whole book is online with photos at http://archive.org/d...xperi00cuttiala This mentions Romany magic in passing only.....but Frank Cuttriss himself may be a person of interest. I can't find the link again right now, but it seems his son married one of the New Forest Wells gypsies.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 08:26 PM

In the first part of my survey of that book.

I mentioned about Christine Maud(e) Wells (1885-1969) she was a friend of Dorothy Cutterbuck / Fordham and she would paint small watercolor pictures in Dorothy's diary as she went along in the writing.

Don't know if she was related to the gypsies. I checked the 1911 census and her father was born in Salisbury, Wiltshire. If you would look at the map Salisbury is not to far from the New Forest on the north part.

Perhaps further checking on the father's line may trace the family to the New Forest and to the Wells gypsies there . The father was I think in the business of selling music equipment, need to collect the info from the 1911 censuses.




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Posted 17 October 2012 - 12:08 AM

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Did some checking on the Mason family.



From Chapter Eight - The Most Interesting Element…


David Hesleton had the Mason family traced to a William Mason born in 1831 Hampshire, his wife was Mary Workman. They were living in Southampton, Hampshire.


But he didn't know where William Mason, born in 1831, was born at.


Then Heselton mentions a place called Toothill where there were references that witches would meet at Toothill. In the vicinity of Toothill there were several Mason families living there in the 1881 census.


At this point in 2000, David Heselton did not make the connection yet between William Mason of Southampton and the Masons living in Toothill area.


Heselton also mentioned in 2000, "I have still to established whether there are any family connections, but I think it is worth commenting on at this stage."




While checking on the 1861 census of Southampton, Hampshire, I located the family living at 19 Lower Winchester Street there.


1861 census of Southampton, Hampshire


19 Lower Winchester Street


William Mason….. Head… Mar… 30 M…. Chair & Umbrella Maker…. Hampshire Romsey

Mary…….. Do……… Wife… Mar… 28 F………………………………………….. Monmouthshire… Usk

Alice……… Do…….. Daur……………. 6 F…………………………………………. Somerset Cleavdon

Amy………. Do……. Daur…………….. 4 F…………………………………………. Hampshire Southampton

George…… Do……. Son………………. 1 M…………………………………………….. Do………. Do



Now notice the 1861 census shows the Birthplace of William Mason to be in Romsey, Hampshire.


David Heselton mentioned "Toothill is situated approx. five miles NNW of Southampton city centre and approx. two miles SE from Romsey"


So we placed the birth of William Mason in Romsey only two miles from Toothill.


In my initial searches of Masons in the Toothill area it seems to be connected to Romsey as if Toothill is enumerated with Romsey in the census.




Will check for further information.


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Posted 25 October 2012 - 02:14 AM

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Part III: Chapters 15 to 21 - survey concluded.





Chapter Fifteen - The Threat of Invasion

In this chapter Philip Heselton mentions the history of past invasion scares and that supposedly the witches were involved in stopping. Gerald Gardner related some stories about these.





Chapter Sixteen - Operation Cone of Power


In this chapter Philip Heselton goes in detail about the history about the traditional witches meeting and conducting the Cone of Power in June of 1940.


Bracelin says:

"Old Dorothy called up "covens right and left; although by Witch Law they should not be known to each other". And this was the start of "Operation Cone of Power", when the witches, as they claim, sent up a force against Hitler's mind."



Allen Andrews adds the following:

"… an extraordinary summons was sent out to members of the Southern Coven of British Witches. It brought seventeen men and women to a clearing in the New Forest."



The chapter goes in details about when it may of occurred, where the probable location in the New Forest and what was to be done there, etc.



It is said that they directed the thought at Hitler's brain.


Valiente, quoting Gardner, says that "they kept it up till they were exhausted or until someone fell in a faint, when there were said to have taken the spell to its destination."


Also, Gardner goes on to quote the elders as saying "We must not kill too many of our people." Now, it is highly unlikely, as well as difficult to explain to the authorities, that they were actually dying in the ritual itself. These comment were almost certainly made some days following the last ritual.





Chapter Seventeen - Their Finest Hour


Doreen Valiente writes:

I was told that a number of the older and frailer people who took part died shortly afterwards, and it was believed that the cold and exertion had contributed to their deaths. They were regarded as having died for the cult and for the success of the ritual and were honoured accordingly.


And Gardner told Bracelin:

"We repeated the ritual four times; and the Elders said: 'We feel we have stopped him. We must not kill too many of our people. Keep them until we need them'.

In addition, King says: "… not only the volunteer but two other members of the coven died from pneumonia within the next fortnight."



Philip Heselton then done researches on who those that may have died might have been and he came up with two people.




Walter Forder -

Walter John Forder born 3rd November 1881 to Walter Jabez Forder and Alice Maud Duncan in Great Yarmouth, Norfolk.

He was a Journalist. In 1932 moved to Highcliffe and was an employee of the Christchurch Times

He died on 11th August 1940.




Charles Loader -

He died on 13th August 1940 at the age of 76.

He was a well known blacksmith and farrier, and had for the past 40 years shoed for all the farms in the vicinity of Bashley and New Milton, the next villages to Highcliffe.

It seems a remarkable coincidence that the local blacksmith for 40 years should be taken ill within a day of the Lammas ritual, dying a fortnight later.





Chapter Eighteen - Learning the Ways of the Witches


Mainly about how Gardner may have learn some of the ideas, etc.


In early 1960, following Donna's death (Gerald's wife), Lois Bourne was staying with Gardner on the Isle of Man, and was helping him sort out some of his papers. She remembers that:

…whilst doing so, I came across correspondence from a lady called Mrs. Woodford Grimes. She wrote in a very stern manner, castigating him for his blatant publicity tendencies, warning him about the deplorable people he became involved with, and casting aspersions on the motives of his converts. I recalled that he was a little embarrassed by the letter but dismissive of it and said "She is old and has become crabby!"



Lois Bourne went on to write:

I gained the impression that the New Forest coven had been a very select group of people, and that Mrs. Woodford Grimes had intended that it remains so. It had never been her intention that the teachings and the secrets should be available to people outside her group, and consequently she was displeased that Gerald should act independently by disseminating knowledge without her approval.



Gardner on the traditional witches:

"… witches have a firmly-rooted belief in their own powers, and the danger of these being misused if uninitiated people learn their methods. Also, they reverence their gods, and do not wish their names to be known, or bandied about and mocked."

"They are happy practicing their lovely old rites. They do not want converts: converts mean talk: talk means bother and semi-persecution . All they desire is peace."



Mike Howard writes: "It has also been said that Gardner's decision to 'go public', even in fictional form, upset the Elders of his parent coven and he left them".






Chapter Nineteen - Witch Beliefs and Practices


Philip Heselton goes into details about comments made by Gerald Gardner about the Witches.





Chapter Twenty - In Another Part of the Forest…


Philip Heselton goes into detail about


The Order of Woodcraft Chivalry - founded in 1916 by Ernest Westlake of Fordingbridge.



Sybil Leek and the Horsa Coven -

She came to the New Forest in the 1950s where she ran antique shops, originally in Ringwood and latterly in Burley.

She was the High Priestess of a coven which met on the outskirts of Burley, only six miles from Highcliffe. It was known as the Horsa coven, the Anglo-Saxon word for horse.



Dolores North -

Aka Madeline Montalban

According to him, Lord Louis Mountbatten, who knew her because of her family's connection with his estate, had retained her as his personal clairvoyant and psychic adviser.

The family connection was that her husband, Commander Bill North, was Mountbatten's agent at Broadlands, the 'stately home' immediately south of the town Romsey, in Hampshire.

(This is 2 miles near Toothill. Romsey and Toothill mentioned earlier with the Mason family.)





Chapter Twenty One - A New Myth ?

Philip Heselton outlined what he has founded and the connections to each.




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Posted 06 November 2012 - 12:42 AM

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Lately I was searching the British Newspaper Archive for any new stuff on the main characters in the New Forest and Highcliffe part of the research.

I was surprise to find this article on Dorothy Clutterbuck being involved in an accident that caused a young woman's death in 1925. it was declared accidental by an inquest that was held.

It is a like a small window opened into Dorothy's past. I checked the internet and I checked Philip Heselton's new book that came out in 2012 and there is no mentioning of this incident. So this is new.

The point being is that even that others have done researches, there are always new stuff that can be found. So there is no "the book is closed" on any subject.




~ 1925

While driving her car, Dorothy Clutterbuck was involved in a death of a bicyclist at the Toller Down cross-roads in Croscombe. The inquest of the incident was reported in the newspaper.



From the newspaper, Western Gazette, Friday 26 June 1925:

TOLLER DOWN FATALITY.

BRIDPORT CYCLIST RIDES INTO CAR.

INQUEST AT HOLYWELL. - THE JURY'S RIDER.

CHRISTCHURCH WITNESSES' EVIDENCE.

The adjourned inquest on Miss Edith Smith (22), the Bridport domestic servant, who died on Sunday week as the result of an accident at Toller Down cross-roads, Croscombe, was conducted by the West Dorset Coroner (Mr. S. E. Howard), at Holywell, near Evershot, on Friday.

Miss Smith was cycling to Holywell to visit her parents, in company with her fiancé, Mr. W. L. Tuck, of Chidcock. Evidence given when the inquest was opened on Tuesday, showed that on approaching the main road, Tuck warned the deceased of a car coming from Maiden Newton.

He stopped dead, but was horrified to see her go straight across the road and collide with a car coming at about 15 miles an hour. Miss Smith fell clear of the car, which pulled up in about 30 yards. The unfortunate young woman was taken into the house of Mr. W. T. Childs, Hill Farm, and later removed to her home. She died in the evening from inter-cranial hemorrhage.

Miss Dorothy Clutterbuck, of the Mill House, Highcliff-on-Sea, Christchurch, the owner of the car, stated at Friday's proceedings that she was driving from Highcliff towards Exeter with a lady as passenger. They were going quite slowly, as they were just going to stop to have some lunch, and were looking for a shady place.

She sounded the horn as she approached all cross-roads, and twice as she approached the Toller Down cross. She first saw deceased as she passed the house on the corner. She swerved into the ditch on her right over some stone heaps, applying the brake at the same time, but cyclist seemed to follow her.
Had she not swerved she would have gone over deceased's body, but the front wheel of the bicycle caught her mudguard, and this knocked deceased into the road.


FELL CLEAR OF THE CAR.

Miss Smith fell quite clear of the car. Witness stopped the car at the first moment possible, and helped to carry her into the house. She stayed with deceased, having had nursing experience right through the war, while two men undertook to go for a doctor.

She could not stop more than an hour owing to a business appointment at Exeter, and she was astonished on returning the next day to find that deceased had been moved. She had begged them not to move her. Miss Smith was conscious when she left.

Replying to Superintendent Beck, witness said she released her brakes after she had mounted the stone heaps, as she could see that by proceeding she would not go over the girl's body, and she could not stop where she was. She was bound to get on the road again. She and the friend with her were covered with broken glass from the windscreen.

Had she not swerved as she did, the car must have gone over the girl's head. She did not wish to suggest that the accident was attributable to the presence of the stones.

Witness continued that Miss Smith was riding with her head down, and came straight for the car. She had room to turn to one side. Witness did not agree that Miss Smith was going very slowly. She had driven a car for the past five years in every county in England except Essex and Suffolk, and all over France and Italy, without ever meeting with an accident before.

That she did not give her name at the time was an oversight owing to her distress, and she fulfilled her promise of returning. She thought deceased was suffering from slight concussion, but if kept quiet and in the dark she hoped she would be all right.

The Foreman of the Jury said at the time in question Miss Smith would be facing the sun, which might have accounted for her riding with her head down. She was wearing spectacles, which had been picked up undamaged.


DANGEROUS CORNERS.

Miss Elizabeth Slatter, Highcliff-on-Sea, deposed to being with the previous witness in the car, and corroborated her evidence.

P.S. Day spoke to seeing Miss Clutterbuck drive very slowly through Maiden Newton about 11.10 a.m. He estimated their speed at 8 to 10 miles an hour.

The Coroner remarked that evidence at the previous hearing showed that Miss Smith's temporary return to consciousness was due to shock having arrested the hemorrhage for the time being, and in this particular case its recurrence would not have been prevented even had she remained without being moved.

The jury returned a verdict of "Accidental death." They added a rider that precautionary measures should be taken further to protect the public against the daily increasing motor traffic on the highways, more especially at very dangerous junctions such as Toller Down Gate, where this fatal accident occurred. The occurrence would now add greater responsibility to those elected for that purpose.

The Coroner expressed the sorrow of Miss Clutterbuck and himself at the accident, and their sympathy with the family of the deceased.

In his opinion those present did everything possible in the circumstances both before and after the accident. He especially mentioned the kindness of those who received her into their house. - The jury and witnesses handed their fees to the relatives of the deceased.



The full file I have on Dorothy Clutterbuck:

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 04:05 AM

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Job Mason of Romsey, Hampshire


Job Mason (1809-1866)

Job Mason was the father of the William Mason that later lived in Southampton, Hampshire.

This is the Mason family that the grandchildren of William Mason were part of the Co-Masonry that were in Southampton, Hampshire. They met Gerald Gardner and also knew Edith Woodford Grimes.

The author, Philip Heselton, believe they were a witch family.

Heselton also mentioned a place named "Toothill" which was several miles away from Southampton. It is mentioned that it was a place of where witches gathered.

Through my research I find that the William Mason of Southampton was born in Romsey, Hampshire. William was a son of Job Mason who also was born in Romsey, Hampshire.

Romsey is about a couple of miles away from Toothill.



~ 1827

There is a record of Job Mason being fined 10 shillings for letting off fireworks on the 5th of November 1827.

Job Mason was caught for using fireworks on Guy Fawkes Night.

From the newspaper, Hampshire Chronicle, Monday, 19 November 1827:

Mr Henry Leach, of Romsey, has been fined 40s. for letting off fire-works on the 5th of Nov.; Job Mason, for a similar offence, was fined 10s.



~ April 1830

Job Mason of Romsey, Hampshire was convicted and fined 45 shillings for stealing cabbage plants from the garden of John Withers in Middlebridge Street in April 1830.

From the newspaper, Hampshire Chronicle, Monday, 19 April 1830:

Romsey --

Job Mason, for stealing cabbage plants, from the garden of John Withers, in Middlebridge-street, was on Wednesday convicted, and fined 45s.



~ August 1830

Job Mason was committed to the county gaol in 28 August 1830 for stealing a quantity of shoemaker's last valuing 20 shillings.

From the newspaper, Hampshire Chronicle, Saturday 28 August 1830:

Winchester, Aug. 28.

COMMITTALS TO THE COUNTY GAOL.

-Job Mason, for receiving at the parish of Romsey, a quantity of shoemakers' lasts, of the value of twenty shillings, the property of John S. Jackson, well knowing the same to have been feloniously stolen.



~ 1841

In 1841, Job and Elizabeth Mason were living on Middlebridge Street in Romsey, Hampshire. Job Mason was a Chimney Sweeper.

From the 1841 census of Romsey:

Name - Age Sex - Profession - Born in County ?

Middlebridge Street

Job Mason……… 35 M… Chimney Sweeper…. Yes
Elizabeth… do… 35 F………………………………… yes
William….. do… 10 M……………………………….. yes
Ann……….. do…. 5 F…………………………………. yes
Charles….. do…. 10 months M…………………… yes
Henry Homer… 19 M….. Chimney Sweeper… yes




~ 1847

Job's wife, Elizabeth Mason, died in the 4th quarter (Oct-Nov-Dec) 1847 in the Romsey registration district of Hampshire.

From the England & Wales, Death Index:

Name: ………………………….. Elizabeth Mason
Date: ……………………………. Oct-Nov-Dec 1847
Registration District: …….. Romsey
County: ………………………... Hampshire
Vol.: ……………………………… 7
Page: ……………………………. 142




~ 1850

Job Mason married Harriet Ford in the 2nd quarter (Apr-May-Jun) of 1850 in the Romsey registration district of Hampshire.

From the England & Wales, Marriage Index:

Names: ………………………… Job Mason / Harriet Ford
Date: …………………………… Apr-May-Jun 1850
Registration District: ….…. Romsey
County: ……………………….. Hampshire
Vol.: …………………………….. 7
Page: …………………………… 265




~ 1851

In 1851, Job and Harriot Mason were living at Baileys Hold in Romsey, Hampshire. Job Mason was a (Chimney) Sweep.

From the 1851 census of Romsey:

Name - Relationship – Married or Single – Age – Sex – Profession – Birthplace

Baileys Hold Hundred

Job Mason………… Head… Mar… 42 M…… Sweep………………. Romsey…. Hants
Harriot…. Do……. Wife……. "…… 44 F……………………………….. Charlton Marshall Dorset
Charles…. Do……. Son…………….. 10 M……………………………… Romsey…. Hants




~ 1852

Job Mason with Job Gannaway and Charles Southwell were convicted for stealing turnip greens and were sentenced 21 days imprisonment each in April 1852.

From the newspaper, Hampshire Advertiser, Saturday, 03 April 1852:

ROMSEY PETTY SESSIONS. -

Job Gannaway, Charles Southwell, and Job Mason, for stealing turnip greens, at East Wellow, were sentenced to twenty-one days' imprisonment each.



~ 1861

In 1861, Job and Harriott Mason were living at Latimere Street in Romsey, Hampshire. Job Mason was a Chimney Sweeper.

From the 1861 census of Romsey:

Name - Relationship – Married or Single – Age – Sex – Profession – Birthplace

Latimere St.

Job Mason………. Head… Mar…. 54 M….. Chimney Sweeper…… Hampshire Romsey
Harriott…. Do…. Wife…… Do….. 57 F……….. Do…. Wife………….. Dorsetshire Charlton




~ 1866

Job Mason died at the age of 57 in the 2nd quarter (Apr-May-Jun) of 1866 in the Southampton registration district of Hampshire.

From the England & Wales, Death Index:

Name: ……………………………. Job Mason
Date: ……………………………… Apr-May-Jun 1866
Age: ……………………………….. 57
Registration District: …….… Southampton
County: ………………………….. Hampshire
Vol.: ……………………………….. 2c
Page: ……………………………… 10




~ 1871

In 1871, Harriott Mason, a widower, was living with her daughter and son in law, James and Eliza Russan at Middlebridge Street in Romsey, Hampshire. Harriott Mason was listed as a pauper.

From the 1871 census of Romsey:

Name - Relationship – Married or Single – Age – Sex – Profession – Birthplace

Middlebridge St

James Russan….. Head…. Mar………… 50 M…. Railway Lab……………… Hants… Romsey
Eliza…… Do……… Wife……. Do………… 40 F…………………………………………… Do…….. Do
Harriott Mason.. Mother in Law.. W… 68 F…. Pauper……………………………. Do……… Do
Fanny Russan…. Niece……………………. 11 F….. Scholar……………………………. Do…….. Do





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