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#1 Stacey

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 08:32 AM

Just thought I'd share a picture of the flying ointment I made, my first ever. It's a grapeseed/beeswax mix I made up. I haven't tried it yet, time hasn't allowed but I am looking forward to seeing if it has any effect. I didn't go overboard on the entheogens, me being me and a klutz I would probably poison myself. It's an experiment but I am hoping for the best. Came out an odd olive colour but from others I've seen online it appears to be not that unusual.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 08:54 AM

1346661142[/url]' post='132279']
Just thought I'd share a picture of the flying ointment I made, my first ever. It's a grapeseed/beeswax mix I made up. I haven't tried it yet, time hasn't allowed but I am looking forward to seeing if it has any effect. I didn't go overboard on the entheogens, me being me and a klutz I would probably poison myself. It's an experiment but I am hoping for the best. Came out an odd olive colour but from others I've seen online it appears to be not that unusual.

Very cool! Can't wait to find out how it goes for you! Good Luck

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 11:40 AM

Most of the discussions on this subject are in the member section, rightfully so.

Mods: Can we move this to a section that is not accessible by guests? I don't know where this conversation is going, but it seems extremely irresponsible to have a discussion about flying ointments in front of what could be children.


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Posted 03 September 2012 - 01:35 PM

J,

There really isn't a section to move it to where it's not publicly visible; and Stacey & Morgana Raven (who are still seekers) can see it. Therefore, I would caution everyone to watch what they post - no recipes or even list of ingredients, please! If a guest wants to know more about flying ointments, there are plenty of other sites they can turn to.

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#5 Jevne

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 01:37 PM

J,

There really isn't a section to move it to where it's not publicly visible; and Stacey & Morgana Raven (who are still seekers) can see it. Therefore, I would caution everyone to watch what they post - no recipes or even list of ingredients, please! If a guest wants to know more about flying ointments, there are plenty of other sites they can turn to.


Thank you for checking.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 05:25 PM

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Most of the discussions on this subject are in the member section, rightfully so.

Mods: Can we move this to a section that is not accessible by guests? I don't know where this conversation is going, but it seems extremely irresponsible to have a discussion about flying ointments in front of what could be children.


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Posted 03 September 2012 - 05:29 PM

You can use less dangerous herbs, there are a few posts in the public area about those. Of course always research what you intend to use. Check for sensitivity and allergies, and make sure you have the real deal, not a substitute herb with different properties.
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Posted 03 September 2012 - 05:54 PM

1346661142[/url]' post='132279']
Just thought I'd share a picture of the flying ointment I made, my first ever. It's a grapeseed/beeswax mix I made up. I haven't tried it yet, time hasn't allowed but I am looking forward to seeing if it has any effect. I didn't go overboard on the entheogens, me being me and a klutz I would probably poison myself. It's an experiment but I am hoping for the best. Came out an odd olive colour but from others I've seen online it appears to be not that unusual.


I usually use olive oil and my beeswax is quite dark so colouring is quite nice. Do you actually mean grape seed or rapeseed?


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Posted 04 September 2012 - 02:04 AM

Most of the discussions on this subject are in the member section, rightfully so.

Mods: Can we move this to a section that is not accessible by guests? I don't know where this conversation is going, but it seems extremely irresponsible to have a discussion about flying ointments in front of what could be children.


I'm still a Seeker so this is the only place I can put it, I wasn't intending on listing ingredients, I'm not that irresponsible or stupid.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 02:07 AM

I usually use olive oil and my beeswax is quite dark so colouring is quite nice. Do you actually mean grape seed or rapeseed?


No, I meant grapeseed. It's the oil I mostly use for things that are oil based. It's relatively cheap to buy, things like almond oil are not readily available where I live and if it is, it is quite expensive to buy. I would use Olive oil but I like the scent and texture of grapeseed.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 02:12 AM

I wasn't intending on listing ingredients, I'm not that irresponsible or stupid.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 03:01 AM

It's actually a curious thing, most sites refuse to post dosage of plants to be used in a flying ointment but lists of psychotropic plants are readily available...
(Not meaning to criticize the Admin as I'm sure liability is involved as well) but IMO it would be safer for the inexperienced to have access to safe dosages than just "we use X Y and Z" and just throwing together possibly unsafe amounts... =/


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Posted 04 September 2012 - 03:26 AM

It's actually a curious thing, most sites refuse to post dosage of plants to be used in a flying ointment but lists of psychotropic plants are readily available...
(Not meaning to criticize the Admin as I'm sure liability is involved as well) but IMO it would be safer for the inexperienced to have access to safe dosages than just "we use X Y and Z" and just throwing together possibly unsafe amounts... =/



Honestly, if someone is stupid enough to just throw together a flying ointment or other dangerous concoction without a proper recipe using a random list of herbs from someone they don't know online then I'm of the opinion that there will be one less stupid person in the world. But....there are teens, kids really, that lurk on this site so I don't see the problem with reserving some things for private. If other sites do certain things great for them.


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Posted 04 September 2012 - 05:57 AM

Personally I can fully understand not putting ingredients in the open part of the forum, some lurkers may make the ointment as per a recipe and that's one thing but there will always be idiots who will 'adjust' the recipe because the giving one is 'tooweak' or because they are harder in their own minds than we are. The problem is if something happens to that idiot then if a friend or family see the recipe on a website on their browser, it's the website that would be blamed.

There are recipes in books, let the seeker find it themselves not spoon fed from a forum. Find it with the words, take full responsible for yourself.


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Posted 04 September 2012 - 07:18 PM

Have moved this to the 'Home made and herbal remedies'. A pinned disclaimer has been added to this section so that should cover any problems.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 07:27 PM

I'm all for removing warning labels so that the stupidity problem of general humanity will get a shot in the arm to sorting itself out "naturally" but that's just me... :)

I'm in the process of making a pretty mild flying ointment with mugwort, I won't be the only one using it so I'm going extremely low dose till I see how the other participants react. Stacey I'd be interested to hear how it goes when you try yours if you care to share.

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 01:45 AM

Just seems an awful lot like the "teach abstinence, not safe sex" tactic...

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 05:11 AM

I generally don't share magical recipes anyway. That's personal. Plenty of places to find a "flying ointment" recipe on the interwebs or in books. I understand the forum's stance on how this is a liability issue, though.

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 05:23 AM

Just seems an awful lot like the "teach abstinence, not safe sex" tactic...

Its a bad metaphor because the seekers here are all ages. But we talk about "safe sex" in the members area. Just like contraception is taught in eighth or ninth grade rather than second or third grade. Furthermore, this is not a teaching site although there is lots of great information on here. If safe sex is condoms combined with the pill, the safe sex for flying ointment is a drum circle. Crossing the hedge is never safe, there is always risk, and flying ointment is going bareback. So, yeah, "there is a time and place for everything childrem, and thats college...mmmkay?"

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There is a trad witch, a well known one too, who died using these herbs in ritual. And I personally know someone who ended up in the psych ward using some of these things. Extreme caution is called for and extreme respect for the herbs involved. And its wise to keep this area for healing remedies rather than the more serious potions.

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 12:12 PM

I'm all for removing warning labels so that the stupidity problem of general humanity will get a shot in the arm to sorting itself out "naturally" but that's just me... :)


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