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#141 Tricycle

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 01:22 AM

Seacow, she scares me! :D


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#142 CailinRua

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 05:08 PM

Haha, thanks! I see a lot of 'authenticity' talk on youtube, where I watch a lot of tarot videos, and whatever else is recommended, that catches my fancy. There's one person who I think is just awful, called Teal Swan, who says a lot of potentially damaging stuff (I can't remember what it was, but she said something really disturbing about suicide), and recently a suggested video for me came up by her. It was titled something like, 'if you want time alone (or space, or something), then you're not being authentic'. I just think it's madness. I didn't watch the video, but I was happy to read in the comments that many disagreed with her.

 

Bingo. thats the one. She is a psychopath with some nasty stuff attached to her. She also has a thing for pedophiles and mass murderers. A lot of bizarre sympathy, love and light for them. their victims though, they brought it on themselves with their "vibration" attracting it. She is a fraud, but she is unique in that she is actually dangerous to her following. Think jim jones. she has a fetish about death and suicide, but interestingly, has not pushed her own reset button. Her back story...is uh, interesting. easily debunked, but its waaaaay the fuck out there


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#143 Solanaceae

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 05:26 PM

Curiosity got the best of me and I looked her up.

If that bitch got in my 'space' with her fucked up vibes she would find out what the 'authentic' me is awfully fast.


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#144 CailinRua

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 06:35 PM

Curiosity got the best of me and I looked her up.

If that bitch got in my 'space' with her fucked up vibes she would find out what the 'authentic' me is awfully fast.

 

Bwahaha! she is a predator, she goes for easy prey. She would not have a fun time going up against anyone who knew they were 'playing' in the first place. the more you look into her (if you are feeling masochistic or particularly morbid), the worse it is. She is long over due for her comeuppance. She is small time with the most bloated ego i have ever seen. its fascinating. There is a pull there that is very much intentional, and effective. The woman has lots of fans, with telling common threads.


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#145 Tricycle

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 11:02 PM

Bwahaha! she is a predator, she goes for easy prey. She would not have a fun time going up against anyone who knew they were 'playing' in the first place. the more you look into her (if you are feeling masochistic or particularly morbid), the worse it is. She is long over due for her comeuppance. She is small time with the most bloated ego i have ever seen. its fascinating. There is a pull there that is very much intentional, and effective. The woman has lots of fans, with telling common threads.

 

CailinRua, I did the same after posting on here! :D I couldn't make it very far into the two videos I attempted, because there's something about her eyes, her expressions, and the way she talks that just makes my skin crawl. I get a strong psycopath vibe from this lady.

 

I had no idea about anything to do with the pedophiles and murderers. It doesn't actually surprise  me, because something felt 'off' with her. What gets me, is it doesn't seem to matter what she says, or how damaging or crazy it sounds, there's a legion of fans who rush in to say things like, 'I really needed that kick in the pants today, thank you!' Blerrgh! lol


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#146 CailinRua

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 11:21 PM

Yeah its really weird. she has dead eyes, she gets pleasure from duping people, and from making them envision horrible things, you can read it all over her face. She gets people to listen to her, because her garbled, but flouncy, language mixes psychological and woo terms, so its partially accepted theory, and partially manipulative twist or flat out crap. AND she says contradictory things back to back, so you can assign any meaning to it at all, depending what you already believe or want to believe.  If she is asked for clarification, she cannot/does not give it. She doesnt go any deeper into her own explanations because they arent teachings, they are just bait. She claims she speaks for "source", she claims to be an alien, that she was cleopatra in a past life...she claims to have survived several years of satanic ritual abuse which included child murder and being sewn into corpses and being made to fuck them while her captor ate them. she also claims to have posed for playboy, that she was an Olympic skier, and to have been an international model. She tells people that they are her alien collegues, and that they are passively suicidal. she also claimed that at some point that she was a wiccan high preistess. she must have lived a very very busy life, lol. Its all over the place.


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#147 Tricycle

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 11:28 PM

Yeah its really weird. she has dead eyes, she gets pleasure from duping people, and from making them envision horrible things, you can read it all over her face. She gets people to listen to her, because her garbled, but flouncy, language mixes psychological and woo terms, so its partially accepted theory, and partially manipulative twist or flat out crap. AND she says contradictory things back to back, so you can assign any meaning to it at all, depending what you already believe or want to believe.  If she is asked for clarification, she cannot/does not give it. She doesnt go any deeper into her own explanations because they arent teachings, they are just bait. She claims she speaks for "source", she claims to be an alien, that she was cleopatra in a past life...she claims to have survived several years of satanic ritual abuse which included child murder and being sewn into corpses and being made to fuck them while her captor ate them. she also claims to have posed for playboy, that she was an Olympic skier, and to have been an international model. She tells people that they are her alien collegues, and that they are passively suicidal. she also claimed that at some point that she was a wiccan high preistess. she must have lived a very very busy life, lol. Its all over the place.

 

That is flat out disturbing! I wonder how she got so many to eat her shit up? I mean, obviously she'd have target gullible or vulnerable people. I do wonder if she has groomed her way to this point. I think on the internet, people like to hear outlandish things, especially in the 'spiritual community', because to be so 'brave' as to say something so crazy, people believe it must be true! lol.

 

I agree with what you're saying, though. She is enjoying fucking with people, you can see it in those evil eyes.


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#148 Solanaceae

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 11:36 PM

Most of that i's completely laughable of course, and I would feel inclined to say let the lemmings follow her of the cliff if they want to so badly.
However the suicide thing really bothers me. I thought that there were laws about people encouraging others to commit suicide?

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 11:39 PM

she does, she says she can cure ptsd and all kinds of things. she teaches people that they were abused by their families but they dont remember it. that she is medical intuitive. she doesnt even beleive in germ theory and says all kinds of reckless, unfounded things. its a wild ride looking into her stories. I am fascinated by cults, and so naturally she rang every alarm bell. its a modern day cult unfolding. i think as annoying and imbalanced as new age thinking can be, its not anywhere near what she is doing. its a mix of extreme conspiracy, new age, reality tv, and fear porn. She eeks her way in where people are at their weakest or darkest points. she describes herself plently of times, describing herself as a psychic vampire, of using sexuality to draw people in, but people like to think this is her being authentic. So, maybe she is authentically horrible. But i dont really define manipulation and deceit as authentic, regardless. Speaking of the whole bravery aspect, the untouchable victim narritive...she said she hates elizabeth smart, she feels rage and jealousy becuase her stpry is believed and her books sold. I think that is because her story is true and has evidence to back it up, and she isnt starting a suicide cult. but maybe that is just me.  I think there is something really damning about that, if she was the survivor she claims to be, why would it be rage and jealousy she feels ? Something is seriously wrong with that woman, its a slow motion train wreck


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#150 CailinRua

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 11:44 PM

She crossed my awareness some time ago, and i spent an embarassing amount of time researching her. I cant tell if its fascination or concern. I check in from time to time, and it only gets crazier as it goes. Now i might have to go catch up again. but im going to resist the urge because its so damn frustrating to read about, haha.


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Posted 11 October 2017 - 12:16 AM

she does, she says she can cure ptsd and all kinds of things. she teaches people that they were abused by their families but they dont remember it. that she is medical intuitive. she doesnt even beleive in germ theory and says all kinds of reckless, unfounded things. its a wild ride looking into her stories. I am fascinated by cults, and so naturally she rang every alarm bell. its a modern day cult unfolding. i think as annoying and imbalanced as new age thinking can be, its not anywhere near what she is doing. its a mix of extreme conspiracy, new age, reality tv, and fear porn. She eeks her way in where people are at their weakest or darkest points. she describes herself plently of times, describing herself as a psychic vampire, of using sexuality to draw people in, but people like to think this is her being authentic. So, maybe she is authentically horrible. But i dont really define manipulation and deceit as authentic, regardless. Speaking of the whole bravery aspect, the untouchable victim narritive...she said she hates elizabeth smart, she feels rage and jealousy becuase her stpry is believed and her books sold. I think that is because her story is true and has evidence to back it up, and she isnt starting a suicide cult. but maybe that is just me.  I think there is something really damning about that, if she was the survivor she claims to be, why would it be rage and jealousy she feels ? Something is seriously wrong with that woman, its a slow motion train wreck

 

 

She crossed my awareness some time ago, and i spent an embarassing amount of time researching her. I cant tell if its fascination or concern. I check in from time to time, and it only gets crazier as it goes. Now i might have to go catch up again. but im going to resist the urge because its so damn frustrating to read about, haha.

 

Bloody hell, it's like the more you delve, the worse it gets! :D

 

I don't think it is embarrassing, we need to know that there are people like this out there. Because when we believe in things that are outside of 'normal reality', things like Teal Swan pop up onto our radar. Just like when I was watching tarot videos on youtube, then Teal Swan videos started to be suggested in my sidebar thingy. Also, a lot of the tarot youtubers I watch are interested in 'authentic living' (which is annoying, but it's their choice, you know? We all have a different path). So, it's obvious she's tapped into, and possibly influenced the 'spiritual community' as youtubers like to call it. Even the witchy things I watch would be attracting these sorts of suggestions.

 

I think it's important that we know what is out there, that not everyone should be taken seriously, and we need to hone our bullshit radars well. We can't just blindly believe whatever comes along as witches, and even if we weren't witches, no one should! People like this teach us to think independantly and to keep questioning everything. What's sad is when she reaches those poor, broken people who need lots of love and proper help, it's cruel what she is doing to them. And I agree, I can't understand why she is allowed to be so publicly pro-suicide!


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#152 CailinRua

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 12:38 AM

those are good points, she certainly helped me fine tune my radar. She is more subtle than david wolfe or alex jones, or more woo-ish rose quartz and positive vibes people. Most people are basically harmless, but she is insidious. The whole authenticity trend...oh my. Obviously there is nothing wrong, whatsoever, in being authentic. But the focus on it, the *claims* of being authentic, just reeks to me. Like people who go "i HATE drama", "loyalty is the most important thing ever", "im the most honest person i know" etc. those are red flags. Decent characteristics either are or arent, and the people who are dont even think to push that identity onto others. their character speaks to it, instead. Does that make sense? i think its the same thing with authenticity. They want their specialness to be REALER than other peoples specialness, it still comes from a place of ego and competition. Its kind of funny.


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Posted 11 October 2017 - 01:01 AM

those are good points, she certainly helped me fine tune my radar. She is more subtle than david wolfe or alex jones, or more woo-ish rose quartz and positive vibes people. Most people are basically harmless, but she is insidious. The whole authenticity trend...oh my. Obviously there is nothing wrong, whatsoever, in being authentic. But the focus on it, the *claims* of being authentic, just reeks to me. Like people who go "i HATE drama", "loyalty is the most important thing ever", "im the most honest person i know" etc. those are red flags. Decent characteristics either are or arent, and the people who are dont even think to push that identity onto others. their character speaks to it, instead. Does that make sense? i think its the same thing with authenticity. They want their specialness to be REALER than other peoples specialness, it still comes from a place of ego and competition. Its kind of funny.

 

That's it. I can handle harmless woo people and get along with them quite well, in day to day life.

 

I agree with you about people making bold claims, early on. A recurring theme in my life, has been when I've met people, and they've made a point of saying strongly, many times, 'I would NEVER hurt you!' even though we weren't talking about any such thing. Of course, I used to wonder why they would labour the point so hard, until... guess what? They hurt/harmed me in some way. I got the message about people like that, loud and clear, and by the time I had my last child, it held me in good stead. My youngest child, who was a toddler at the time, was playing out the front of our house with me. A man who lived in the town (we were new-ish to this town) struck up a friendly conversation, and then he threw in, that he'd love to teach my daughter how to ride a horse. Then, straight after saying that, he said, 'I'd NEVER let anyone hurt her or molest her!' Which sounds like a rational thing that is right, yeah? I mean, most good people are like that. But we weren't talking about any such thing, and I took that as my cue to simply keep my children away from him.

 

And usually, if someone is claiming they're not something terrible, they usually also say something like, 'not like THOSE people!' lol. So yes, it's definitely a competition for some :D


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#154 CailinRua

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 01:35 AM

oh yuck, i would have gone running from that guy. thats such a random thing to bring up. Makes you wonder who hes around that nonchalantly mentioning child molestation in the presence of a child and childs mother is an acceptable thing to do.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 12:32 AM

So I decided to toddle off and see what all the fuss was about, and made it less than two minutes through her "If you need space you're inauthentic" video, right until I got to the dog. How the hell did she manage to find a creepy picture of a golden retriever?!


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 07:13 AM

You made it farther than I did Duchess. Do I dare go back and look?

 

those are good points, she certainly helped me fine tune my radar. She is more subtle than david wolfe or alex jones, or more woo-ish rose quartz and positive vibes people. Most people are basically harmless, but she is insidious. The whole authenticity trend...oh my. Obviously there is nothing wrong, whatsoever, in being authentic. But the focus on it, the *claims* of being authentic, just reeks to me. Like people who go "i HATE drama", "loyalty is the most important thing ever", "im the most honest person i know" etc. those are red flags. Decent characteristics either are or arent, and the people who are dont even think to push that identity onto others. their character speaks to it, instead. Does that make sense? i think its the same thing with authenticity. They want their specialness to be REALER than other peoples specialness, it still comes from a place of ego and competition. Its kind of funny.

In my experience people who love to spout those lines turn out to be sociopaths. Well, this introvert is off to go do something unauthentic like read a book.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 11:50 AM

So I decided to toddle off and see what all the fuss was about, and made it less than two minutes through her "If you need space you're inauthentic" video, right until I got to the dog. How the hell did she manage to find a creepy picture of a golden retriever?!

 

 

You made it farther than I did Duchess. Do I dare go back and look?

 

In my experience people who love to spout those lines turn out to be sociopaths. Well, this introvert is off to go do something unauthentic like read a book.

 

*Snort!* :D


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#158 CailinRua

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 04:49 PM

LOL Duchess, in a lot of her videos...the imagery is telling. Its really jarring sometimes the pictures she chooses to go along with what she is saying. If i go to check on what she is up to, i stick to reading her crappy verbose blogs. they say all the same things, without her dead eyes, drolling voice and inappropriate smirks. Still, the images are jarring. But its kind of better. There are some funny videos on youtube calling her out on various things. So, I know im not alone in thinking she is a total creep and batshit crazy.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 06:05 PM

I'd never heard of her before reading this thread so I looked up her youtube channel and...that's a whole lotta nope. She's creepy for sure. Somewhere earlier on this thread someone mentioned it being like the unfolding of a cult and I would have to wholeheartedly agree. Weird stuff.
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Posted 14 October 2017 - 09:24 AM

. However, when somebody babbles on about "The Secret," I just want to say, you know, that is a super oversimplification of a very very watered down and sanitized version of some of the main principles of witchcraft, but I just hold my tongue instead. I really don't want to tell any new age people about my craft. (Or any people, for that matter, lol).Also, I can find some supplies I need in the town's one shop which many would consider new age, but which also has a decent selection of craft supplies, like pendulums, herbs, tarot cards, stones, etc. And I do admit, during my early twenties, I read a lot of new age books--a few truly wonderful and a lot of mediocre and watered down muck--that helped pave the way to my subsequent understanding and acceptance of myself as a witch (I never say that I chose to walk a certain path, more like I figured out who and what I really was). I have some more of my own experiences to add, but I thought I'd throw this out there first and see what sticks.


Lmao.. holy fucking shit.. I literally said almost the exact same thing at work... only you wrote it nicer/better.. I was kind of a dick about it XD

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