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Posted 19 December 2011 - 02:07 PM

Apparently, this movie was based on the book "Hex" by Arthur Lewis. It's an older one, from 1988....does anyone around here recall watching it & if so, do you recommend it?

Looks like I can watch it free online...



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Posted 19 December 2011 - 06:56 PM

scratch the "free" online thing...too many things the site I came across wants you to download, in order to watch it for free. :rolleyes:

At any rate, I'm super curious about how this story may have been portrayed in the movie...guess I'll have to just get the DVD and find out what it's all about. :)



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Posted 19 December 2011 - 07:28 PM

Have a look for it on IMDB
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Posted 20 December 2011 - 12:30 AM

View Postspinney, on 19 December 2011 - 07:28 PM, said:

Have a look for it on IMDB



Thank you for the suggestion, Spinney!

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 12:46 AM

Never saw it, ordered the book though... let us know what you think if you get the DVD!
"The people who live in the Ozark country of Missouri and Arkansas were, until very recently, the most deliberately unprogressive people in the United States. Descended from pioneers who came West from the Southern Appalachians at the beginning of the nineteenth century, they made little contact with the outer world for more than a hundred years. They seem like foreigners to the average urban American, but nearly all of them come of British stock, and many families have lived in America since colonial days. Their material heirlooms are few, but like all isolated illiterates they have clung to the old songs and obsolete sayings and outworn customs of their ancestors." Ozark Magic and Folklore
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Posted 20 December 2011 - 01:43 AM

View PostAloe, on 20 December 2011 - 12:46 AM, said:

Never saw it, ordered the book though... let us know what you think if you get the DVD!



I will post about it here after I watch it. I created an account at IMDB <great site BTW, thanks, Spinney!>, but they don't have it for viewing. I'm not much of a movie watcher-but the account will be a good thing to have anyway, in case I want to watch something else. :)

I'll probably just end up ordering the DVD...

Also, just an FYI, since you find an interest in the trial- I have since read there are two other books on the trial, one called "Trials of Hex" by J. Ross McGinnis and another, written in 1929, by A. Monroe Aurand <didn't see a title mentioned though>. I saw one, very good review of "Trials of Hex" on Amazon. I didn't get either yet, but I might later on, if copies are available.

Have a good night!
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Posted 20 December 2011 - 01:52 AM

There is a link to it on Fnuz, playable on either Veehd or Vidicube, if you can access those from your country.
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Posted 20 December 2011 - 07:35 PM

View PostTana, on 20 December 2011 - 01:52 AM, said:

There is a link to it on Fnuz, playable on either Veehd or Vidicube, if you can access those from your country.



Thank you for the tip, Tana! I'll check it out!

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 01:29 PM

ok, finally had ordered the DVD <couldn't get it to work on the sites mentioned here for one reason or another>, and got notification that it shipped yesterday. So, hopefully, sometime next week I shall have a review of some sort.

Admittedly, I am terrible with reviews and will probably consist of "it was good" or "man, that sucked"...lol But I'll try to do better than that :)

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 02:01 PM

View PostAnara, on 06 January 2012 - 01:29 PM, said:

Admittedly, I am terrible with reviews and will probably consist of "it was good" or "man, that sucked"...lol But I'll try to do better than that :)


lol, I am the same! I started the book but got distracted by some others. Should be finishing it up soon, I'm anxious to hear what you think of the movie!

"The people who live in the Ozark country of Missouri and Arkansas were, until very recently, the most deliberately unprogressive people in the United States. Descended from pioneers who came West from the Southern Appalachians at the beginning of the nineteenth century, they made little contact with the outer world for more than a hundred years. They seem like foreigners to the average urban American, but nearly all of them come of British stock, and many families have lived in America since colonial days. Their material heirlooms are few, but like all isolated illiterates they have clung to the old songs and obsolete sayings and outworn customs of their ancestors." Ozark Magic and Folklore
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 02:48 PM

View PostAloe, on 06 January 2012 - 02:01 PM, said:

lol, I am the same! I started the book but got distracted by some others. Should be finishing it up soon, I'm anxious to hear what you think of the movie!


I get distracted by books too...lol.. It's shameless the amount of books I have right now, that are partially read or just picked through-both physical copies and downloaded ones onto the computer.

Anyway, I found this that I'll share here...and found the comments below to be interesting too...I'm still trying to figure out the real differences between the pow wowers and the hexenmeisters...something that Ldy Shallot said in another thread regarding Appalachia struck a chord though..it makes sense that the PA Dutch beliefs would have been similar...pow wowers believed they were channeling powers from the christian god whereas maybe the hexenmeisters believed they were channeling their own powers...anyway, I have Lee Gandee's Strange Experience marked as a book to buy in 2012-maybe that will offer further insights.

But...here is that review I told you about..it's probably a better review than I could ever give ..LOL!

http://danharms.word...tice-to-murder/

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 03:44 PM

I watched this and didn't really enjoy it. I don't think it was a very accurate depiction of what probably happened. So, that's my review..lol
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Posted 31 January 2012 - 03:49 PM

View PostAnara, on 31 January 2012 - 03:44 PM, said:

I watched this and didn't really enjoy it. I don't think it was a very accurate depiction of what probably happened. So, that's my review..lol


Good to know lol.. I finished reading Hex, it was interesting but not something I'll be reading multiple times or anything.. I'm curious to read some of the other books on those trials now and see what different perspectives they offer.

"The people who live in the Ozark country of Missouri and Arkansas were, until very recently, the most deliberately unprogressive people in the United States. Descended from pioneers who came West from the Southern Appalachians at the beginning of the nineteenth century, they made little contact with the outer world for more than a hundred years. They seem like foreigners to the average urban American, but nearly all of them come of British stock, and many families have lived in America since colonial days. Their material heirlooms are few, but like all isolated illiterates they have clung to the old songs and obsolete sayings and outworn customs of their ancestors." Ozark Magic and Folklore
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Posted 01 February 2012 - 02:24 PM

View PostAloe, on 31 January 2012 - 03:49 PM, said:

Good to know lol.. I finished reading Hex, it was interesting but not something I'll be reading multiple times or anything.. I'm curious to read some of the other books on those trials now and see what different perspectives they offer.


I hope to get to them too at some point here this year, maybe. The whole thing is curious to me because I think it is a direct reflection on society and local culture during it's time.

You might find this interesting-something I came across recently-I've read that the murder victim, Rehmeyer <the supposed "hexenmeister"> is buried outside of a cemetery, in a lone grave, and there is a pentagram on his headstone. I can't substantiate this for certain, <read over the internet>, but I thought it to be very, very interesting. Why wasn't he buried in a churchyard? Not that it bothers me, or anything-I just find it curious.

If this is true, what were they thinking during this time to bury him like this? In my opinion, that could have only been the result of local superstitions and accepted cultural habits and beliefs. Who knows though-maybe his family chose this as a way of protecting his gravesite because of the notoriety of the case, during it's time. If that's true-I would have done the same thing, to be honest.

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 02:32 PM

View PostAnara, on 01 February 2012 - 02:24 PM, said:

I hope to get to them too at some point here this year, maybe. The whole thing is curious to me because I think it is a direct reflection on society and local culture during it's time.

You might find this interesting-something I came across recently-I've read that the murder victim, Rehmeyer <the supposed "hexenmeister"> is buried outside of a cemetery, in a lone grave, and there is a pentagram on his headstone. I can't substantiate this for certain, <read over the internet>, but I thought it to be very, very interesting. Why wasn't he buried in a churchyard? Not that it bothers me, or anything-I just find it curious.

If this is true, what were they thinking during this time to bury him like this? In my opinion, that could have only been the result of local superstitions and accepted cultural habits and beliefs. Who knows though-maybe his family chose this as a way of protecting his gravesite because of the notoriety of the case, during it's time. If that's true-I would have done the same thing, to be honest.


Oh that is interesting if its correct.. I find the accounts of this incident fascinating because my ancestry records show that I have a lot of relatives who lived in that area during that time, so it's really cool to be able to learn about the general mindset of the community there.

"The people who live in the Ozark country of Missouri and Arkansas were, until very recently, the most deliberately unprogressive people in the United States. Descended from pioneers who came West from the Southern Appalachians at the beginning of the nineteenth century, they made little contact with the outer world for more than a hundred years. They seem like foreigners to the average urban American, but nearly all of them come of British stock, and many families have lived in America since colonial days. Their material heirlooms are few, but like all isolated illiterates they have clung to the old songs and obsolete sayings and outworn customs of their ancestors." Ozark Magic and Folklore
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Posted 01 February 2012 - 03:07 PM

View PostAloe, on 01 February 2012 - 02:32 PM, said:

Oh that is interesting if its correct.. I find the accounts of this incident fascinating because my ancestry records show that I have a lot of relatives who lived in that area during that time, so it's really cool to be able to learn about the general mindset of the community there.


From what I have read, very superstitious mindset-at least among the PA Dutch, I imagine. Ghosts were very real, supernatural things were believed in, and people took strides in protecting themselves (if my understanding is correct, the hex signs were meant to "ward off witches".."hex" means witch...for example...so the belief in witches must have been there. Why believe in witches and take precautions against them, if there weren't any? That would be silly and a waste of time...lol )...there were pow wow doctors and hexenmeisters..I think some were healers, some were hexers and some were both. I think it must have simply been a culture much like any other culture that believes in supernatural things. Makes sense this way to me right now, anyway. I think I have been able to put more of this together in my head since joining this website, and being able to see snipits from other cultures and practices.

You might enjoy reading, "Once upon a Hex" by Dennis Boyer. No magic related things in it-but it is more of a book about local folklore and ghost stories..that sort of thing. I found it at my local library. It was an interesting book, but I wouldn't have paid too much for it at the same time....


anyway, yeah...interesting stuff..lol

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