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#61 Willau

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 01:43 AM

Thanks, Autumn Moon. Good point about the Elder, although I would never use a "green" limb for a tool. Things are better aged like fine wine. ;)

 

River Willow, may work well, or...maybe even a bone if the hunting goes well? :howl-moon: 


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#62 Autumn Moon

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 05:20 AM

You're welcome Willau.


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Posted 21 January 2014 - 06:54 PM

I do have a witches ladder made from hagstones. The more I find the longer it gets lol

Could you share how you made your sitches ladder, I am fascinated and would like to try my hand at it but cannot find a good resource for the practical how to...many thanks in advance.  old befana


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Posted 21 January 2014 - 09:35 PM

Very easy to make they are hag stones that I find,tied in string/hemp /leathers strips,whatever you feel you like. Knot then a gap another knot then another stone knot again another gap knot again etc.
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#65 CelticGypsy

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 12:03 AM

Hello Old Befana, :smile:

 

I'm not sure but if you have access to the Gallery yet, there may be a picture of one in there for your viewing.  Aurora is right, they are super easy to make, some can be quite beautiful when imagination and creativity comes together.

 

Our Havilland aka Schnaakess... has a beautiful one you can look at here : http://www.tradition...er-for-a-friend

 

 

 


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 09:24 PM

Very easy to make they are hag stones that I find,tied in string/hemp /leathers strips,whatever you feel you like. Knot then a gap another knot then another stone knot again another gap knot again etc.

Thank you so much!


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Posted 25 January 2014 - 01:09 AM

Firebird, if you go to my website - its on my details -somewhere, you can read about  a student who has written about Hoodoo and actually gives chapter and verse of which are the best books to read on the subject. We have different names over here in England but essentially its the same thing. I love cross-roads they're so witchy, don't you think? Especially since Hecate is the Goddess associated with Cross-Roads, though I think what She would prefer is a country road or track rather than an interstate-highway crossing Route 66 or some other large Arterial Road. I used to walk through a cemetry as a short cut once but when I misjudged where I was walking once and fell into an open grave for the following morning - I never did it again! I ruined a good suit trying to climb out of a six foot muddy hole! :) foxman


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#68 Jevne

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 02:15 AM

Firebird, if you go to my website - its on my details -somewhere, you can read about  a student who has written about Hoodoo and actually gives chapter and verse of which are the best books to read on the subject. We have different names over here in England but essentially its the same thing. . . .

 

Are you saying that in England, there are practices similar to those employed by Hoodoo practitioners, just with slightly different names?  We have plenty of folks from England, posting on the Forum, and that is the first time that I have heard anyone say specifically that England has different names for the same practices. 

 

I suppose the differences are just embedded in those folk's responses to the various corresponding threads, as opposed to making a distinction that they are speaking about their own country.  Frankly, I sometimes forgot that people are posting from all over the world, because people rarely feel the need to point out where they are.  Technology certainly makes the world smaller.


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Posted 25 January 2014 - 06:42 AM

Re: witches ladder, some members may find this to be of interest:  http://england.prm.o...chs-ladder.html


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Posted 25 January 2014 - 04:19 PM

Re: witches ladder, some members may find this to be of interest:  http://england.prm.o...chs-ladder.html

 

 

Thanks Aurelian... :thumbsup:


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Posted 25 January 2014 - 06:37 PM

Re: witches ladder, some members may find this to be of interest:  http://england.prm.o...chs-ladder.html




Than you,interesting. I have also made them like this but didn't realize the reasoning.I happen to have a few cocks around and was bored although interestinly the purpose of the knots and their demise in the rain is similar.

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Posted 26 January 2014 - 03:41 AM

Than you,interesting. I have also made them like this but didn't realize the reasoning.I happen to have a few cocks around and was bored although interestinly the purpose of the knots and their demise in the rain is similar.

 

I didn't really know anything bout witches' ladders at all, and had been making them with crow feathers and belladonna berries and the like, so it's nice to see a bit of backup on things you've already done.


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 05:07 AM

I am curious for those just starting a path (or those of you who can remember what you were up to back then :tongue:), was protection the first thing on your mind when you began practicing the craft?

 

I believe protection is extremely important, but as a crafting concept I felt it was boring and I preferred (and still prefer) to occupy myself with other more fun and interesting things.

 

Even though it's not something I did (or do), if I had to give advice to someone on how to start their path I would still probably place a heavy emphasis on protection.

 

Did you practice protection first? Do you think it should always come first? In your opinion, should a Witch's first spells be concerned with keeping themselves safe and warding off danger?


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 06:48 AM

Protection is quite important, but as for recommending it as a singular effort, no.  One has to be able to manipulate energy to some extent for the protections to work!  I would have them do the very basic energy exercises, become very confident in their uses therein.  Secondly, I would have them do a VERY thorough house cleaning and sealing, because it is folly to try to ward yourself from threat when it's already living with you!

 

At that point, I'd start them on basic little magics, like building and maintaining a prosperity altar, basic charms, candle magic, or whatever else have you.  Whichever method of working employed, such as circle casting, or the compass round, or something else: the protections are built in!  The earth isn't going to swallow a new person up, or rain down fire and brimstone just because most beginners are a bit clumsy!  The important thing is to actually do the work, practice magic, and build a solid foundation from which to work.  Protections from nasty sources should become to be second nature, in my opinion.   

 

So, to reiterate, whilst protections are important, they are not at all vital to master prior to building skill in other aspects of our craft.

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 07:27 AM

I am curious for those just starting a path (or those of you who can remember what you were up to back then :tongue:), was protection the first thing on your mind when you began practicing the craft?

 

I believe protection is extremely important, but as a crafting concept I felt it was boring and I preferred (and still prefer) to occupy myself with other more fun and interesting things.

 

Even though it's not something I did (or do), if I had to give advice to someone on how to start their path I would still probably place a heavy emphasis on protection.

 

Did you practice protection first? Do you think it should always come first? In your opinion, should a Witch's first spells be concerned with keeping themselves safe and warding off danger?

 

To be honest, no I didn't practice protection first.  I was a vengeful, angry,  little monster when I first started actual craft on my own and attacked my "enemies" as my first "spells". Whatever enemies a 12 year old can have anyway...  My mind was really that of a child and it just didn't occur to me to protect myself other than hiding under the covers.   A year later and in to my middle teens, I lived with a family of witches and I began heavy study and practice. While it was a concern of mine, I didn't really focus on it like I do now and I was pretty vulnerable and scared of everything otherworldly, especially of spirits. Of course, there were protections up in the house from the parental witches that kept the really bad shit out but it wasn't full proof so I was constantly surrounded by spirits and scared out of mind.

 

One thing I did do though, that I would recommend, was practice disciplining my mind.  I have an affinity for knowing people and their intentions even when they wish to lie about it. It was to the point I thought certain other people did as well and thought my "mind" was in some way readable to them, especially to one person. I discovered that keeping a song on loop in my head and thinking behind it in images and concepts was very helpful against this one person's intrusions. It allowed me to hide my true feelings so I could plan and I was able to get away from an awful situation

 

This, along with other mind work, was among the stuff I was first taught.  I would also start with this were I helping someone new.  You have to learn to use your mind and abilities before you can attack or protect. Personal shields were a natural development after this.

 

 As my mind matured and the older I got, I realized I can do much more than what I could as a teen and then I realized that others could too and beings are attracted to that. So now, protections are very important to me. Its like the more experience I get its as if I live in a very nice shiny house and keep adding shiny new furniture and valuables.  Protections are my security system. Robbers are the negative spirits and beings of the other world. The robbers are now attracted to my house because it catches their eye. Were I living in the shitty old apartment with crappy furniture, the robbers might try something if they were bored or desperate but other than that they wanted the shiny house, not the dull shitty one.

 

One has to work on their own power to be able to manipulate energy.  The more one can do that, the more they become a target to malicious beings. But also, the more one can do that, the more they can protect themselves. Some people can still be a target even if they are new and inexperienced.  They may have simply been born in a shiny house or come across desperate or bored robbers or they may have been born in the robbers lair. I hope that makes sense. This doesn't really take in to account human attacks, but I believe we pick those up randomly or earn those through our interactions with people. 


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 05:43 PM

Thank you Aurelian and Whiterose, wonderful food for thought :)


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 05:56 PM

I am curious for those just starting a path (or those of you who can remember what you were up to back then :tongue:), was protection the first thing on your mind when you began practicing the craft?

 

I believe protection is extremely important, but as a crafting concept I felt it was boring and I preferred (and still prefer) to occupy myself with other more fun and interesting things.

 

Even though it's not something I did (or do), if I had to give advice to someone on how to start their path I would still probably place a heavy emphasis on protection.

 

Did you practice protection first? Do you think it should always come first? In your opinion, should a Witch's first spells be concerned with keeping themselves safe and warding off danger?

 

 

 

Protection when starting is important but not the 'focus' for sure, more of an important side note IMO.  I say this mainly because at one point (I've posted about it somewhere) I went so far overboard with protection that I ended up creating blockages that were impeding my abilities.  Again, just my opinion from my experience.


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Posted 15 February 2014 - 02:16 PM

I am curious for those just starting a path (or those of you who can remember what you were up to back then :tongue:), was protection the first thing on your mind when you began practicing the craft?

 

I believe protection is extremely important, but as a crafting concept I felt it was boring and I preferred (and still prefer) to occupy myself with other more fun and interesting things.

 

Even though it's not something I did (or do), if I had to give advice to someone on how to start their path I would still probably place a heavy emphasis on protection.

 

Did you practice protection first? Do you think it should always come first? In your opinion, should a Witch's first spells be concerned with keeping themselves safe and warding off danger?

 

 

I didn't work on protection first. At one time I did get into it, then it became "protection from what and why would this "what" be looking for little old me, anyway" lol... IN the end I just use rather "mundane" common-sense protection - at times of the year when the dark is nearer I put up some protections related to things known to come with the dark. If something is a stranger (just like in mundane-life) I don't invite it into my house willy nilly or run off with it or believe everything it says until I know it better or unless someone I trust has vouched for it's integrity.  

 

In mundane life when I leave my house for work I lock my doors (mostly to keep petty theives and mischif makers out because a die-hard thief who wants something I have will find a way in). I don't have iron doors and vaults for my caravan, so I don't have them in "non-mundane" life, either, as I haven't found them necessary (depending on the risks one decides to take and what one decides to get involved with). In real life I don't walk alone down back alleys at night looking for trouble, I don't barge in to places I might not be welcome and demand hospitality, friendship and acceptance. When in the homes/locations/dwellings of others I respect their rules and try to not offend (and all land has others on it besides us humans - humans need to remember we are constantly walking through the "homes" of others and act accordingly and with respect). I don't invite strangers into my house, I don't tell the world my life-story, and if I am doing something questionable I don't do it in public or blab about it. Same thing with non-mundane protection. I just use common-sense and try to be polite, lol.

 

 

 

....I happen to have a few cocks around and was bored ....     :thinking:    lol lol lol

 

 

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 03:44 PM

I like what Michele has to say, especially the parts about common sense, doing what is necessary, and not acting like a blundering idiot, barging in and messing where not welcome or needed.  In general, if you are a newbie (meaning lacking in significant knowledge, skill, or power), you have little to worry about from people or entities that happen to possess those abilities . . . Hate to break it to you, but to such beings most folks are nothing but shit stains on their panties; not worth the time. 


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Posted 15 February 2014 - 04:14 PM

Unless you're a douchebag and really piss people off.


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