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Just on a side note, as I do not want to high-jack this thread. It's been discussed numerous times in other posts/threads due to it's historical reference. During the Burning Times, many if not all heads of women and men were shaved, by the Inquistors. I personally believe that it wasn't because of the smell of burning hair, but symbolic. I know from what I read about Frau Peller.

 

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Just on a side note, as I do not want to high-jack this thread. It's been discussed numerous times in other posts/threads due to it's historical reference. During the Burning Times, many if not all heads of women and men were shaved, by the Inquistors. I personally believe that it wasn't because of the smell of burning hair, but symbolic. I know from what I read about Frau Peller.

 

Regards,

Gypsy

 

I always considered the shaving of the accused's head to be an act intended to defile or shame the individual. Perhaps, the idea to take that action is a hold-over from some ancient belief regarding the power of an individual's hair. As already mentioned, other religions, also, have mythos related to hair, so this is not outside of the realm of possibility. I wonder, however, if after cutting the individual's hair, the accusers did something specific with it. We have already indicated that hair can be used to perform magic either on behalf of or against another. Does anyone have any reference to what the accusers did with the hair? Did they use it in an effort to protect themselves from other Witches, for example?

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I always considered the shaving of the accused's head to be an act intended to defile or shame the individual. Perhaps, the idea to take that action is a hold-over from some ancient belief regarding the power of an individual's hair. As already mentioned, other religions, also, have mythos related to hair, so this is not outside of the realm of possibility. I wonder, however, if after cutting the individual's hair, the accusers did something specific with it. We have already indicated that hair can be used to perform magic either on behalf of or against another. Does anyone have any reference to what the accusers did with the hair? Did they use it in an effort to protect themselves from other Witches, for example?

 

I've never read anything that suggested what they did with the hair after shaving. But I have read that shaving of the entire body was not only humiliate the individual, but also to see if there is a hidden 'witches mark' or 'devil's mark'.

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I've never read anything that suggested what they did with the hair after shaving. But I have read that shaving of the entire body was not only humiliate the individual, but also to see if there is a hidden 'witches mark' or 'devil's mark'.

 

Oh, yeah! Forgot about that part. Mine is behind my left knee. Feel free to shave my legs to find it.

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On a scientific note, hair retains a persons history for example when testing for drug use a hair sample is taken as it retains what was in the body at the time.

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Oh my, could this group be called the Splint Enders's ? Kinda hairy... almost sounds like a Rock Band. Michelle on the mike, Sir Elf on the horns, and Oneironaut on the drums. I'd pay to see this :thumbsup:

 

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Gypsy

 

I think the name "Herr Schpeller und der Harr Spooners" has a nice ring to it. Oneieronaut on the boardwalk, Michele on the lookout and myself on the dole. "All together now...."

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Elf

 

 

 

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Sorry to be Off topic here, but does cutting/trimming the hair on a full moon actually help it to grow faster? Because mine simply REFUSES to grow any further than slightly below my shoulders despite me trimming it by 1 CM ( approx) every few weeks to try and encourage it.

 

It seriously annoys the hell out of me , because I have always wanted hair that is at least elbow length, and mine has never ever grown that long.

 

I haven't had my hair actually cut properly since I was 10 years old, just trimmed any dead ends. And it's still never grown longer than it is now :(

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Stop trimming it. It grows at an incredibly slow rate and you are probably cutting off the growth. Each person has a set length the hair will grow apparently, maybe this is yours? Though I do know when the hair gets to just passed the shoulder it seems to stop for ages.

 

I did cut my hair on the waxing moon once, not the full and it didn't do much, but then I didn't have the belief behind it needed at the time. I'm waiting til the 2nd quarter to trim mine again, as I want it to grow longer again.

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I am an old fashioned girl and have long hair I can sit on. It wasn't a conscious decision to grow it long, but I have always felt uncomfortable cutting it. So I don't have to guard against cuttings being taken for nefarious reasons (as if anyone with that intent would be let in the house!!) but I am careful with my brush and don't take a brush or comb out and about in my handbag.

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Wish I'd seen this thread a week ago before I got my hair trimmed on the waning moon, it hasn't felt right since actually. This thread also explains why I keep wanting to grow my hair, for some reason I kept getting it chopped because I was told it looked better but I have always really wanted long hair and finally decided to grow it out about a year ago.

 

I guess it depends on personal preference, maybe hair only has the power we imbue it with?

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Sorry to be Off topic here, but does cutting/trimming the hair on a full moon actually help it to grow faster? Because mine simply REFUSES to grow any further than slightly below my shoulders despite me trimming it by 1 CM ( approx) every few weeks to try and encourage it.

 

It seriously annoys the hell out of me , because I have always wanted hair that is at least elbow length, and mine has never ever grown that long.

 

I haven't had my hair actually cut properly since I was 10 years old, just trimmed any dead ends. And it's still never grown longer than it is now :(

 

Average hair growth is only 1cm per month... so if you are trimming off 1cm every few weeks, you're cutting it at the same rate it grows. I seriously doubt you've reached your terminal length at just past your shoulders. Everyone has a different growth cycle for their hair (hell, individual hairs on your head can have different growth cycles), but the majority of people can at least grow butt length hair.

 

Regular trims don't encourage growth, unless you have a ton of damage. And then, it's just because you have to take off the damage that's causing your hair to break off in order for it to grow. I don't trim my hair at all and it grows faster than average. Once in a while during the full moon I'll do a 'search and destroy', cutting off individual split ends. You may want to cut back on trimming and just take off damage when you see it. You'll see growth in no time, I bet.

 

(edited for weird grammatical errors...)

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How funny that this topic should emerge when I cut my hair short after wearing it long for all my life. Love this forum! :vhappywitch:

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I had super-long hair (down to my butt) until after I graduated from high school, then I cut it all off, and my neck screamed in thanks. I grew it out a little some time afterwards, because I was getting married, and wanted as much hair to work with as was possible, but then I cut it short again immediately after the wedding.

 

My hair is REALLY thick (in amount as well as individual strand-thickness, thanks to my 1/4-Cherokee father), and REALLY heavy. I used to get matts and tangles all the time as a kid, and OH, the shampoo/conditioner-consumption. scared.gif That, and by that time, it was really damaged, and didn't look very healthy at all. I wanted to donate it, but I couldn't. :\

 

I'm thinking of growing it down to shoulder-length again, just because I'm tired of wearing it short, but I have no attachment to length. If I see a short style some time in the future that's really cute and suits my face-shape, I'll try it. :P I think my chiropractor will thank me for that, as well.

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I have always had my hair long apart from one time when i was 12 and my mum decided to have it cut so short that all the kids at school took the chronic piss :( I havent had my hair cut for a year (since it was last trimmed I mean) even through the ends really do need trimming. At the moment my hair is to the top of my bum, natural colour, red and in really good condition. I feel almost naked with short hair and my hair is a really big part of me. I cant ever see my going short again.

 

As far as magickal purposes go then as my hair is such an important part of me i would say that instictivly i know it would cause me a problem even if it was just at an unsubconscience level.

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It seems that during the Viet Nam War special forces in the war department had sent undercover experts to comb American Indian Reservations looking for talented scouts, for tough young men trained to move stealthily through rough terrain. They were especially looking for men with outstanding, almost supernatural, tracking abilities. Before being approached, these carefully selected men were extensively documented as experts in tracking and survival.

 

With the usual enticements, the well proven smooth phrases used to enroll new recruits, some of these indian trackers were then enlisted. Once enlisted, an amazing thing happened. Whatever talents and skills they had possessed on the reservation seemed to mysteriously disappear, as recruit after recruit failed to perform as expected in the field.

 

Serious casualities and failures of performance led the government to contract expensive testing of these recruits, and this is what was found. When questioned about their failure to perform as expected, the older recruits replied constantly that when they received their required military haircuts, they could no longer 'sense' the enemy, they could no longer access a 'sixth sense' , their 'intuition' no longer was reliable, they couldn't 'read' subtle signs as well or access subtle extrasensory information.

 

So the testing institute recruited more indian trackers, let them keep their long hair, and tested them in multiple areas. Then they would pair two men together who had received the same scores on all the tests. They would let one man in the pair keep his hair long, and gave the other man a military haircut. Then the two men retook the tests.

 

Time after time the man with long hair kept making high scores. Time after time, the man with the short hair failed the tests in which he had previously scored high scores.

 

Here is a typical test:

The recruit is sleeping out in the woods. An armed 'enemy' approaches the sleeping man. The long haired man is awakened out of his sleep by a strong sense of danger and gets away long before the enemy is close, long before any sounds from the approaching enemy are audible.

 

In another version of this test the long haired man senses an approach and somehow intuits that the enemy will perform a physical attack. He follows his 'sixth sense' and stays still, pretending to be sleeping, but quickly grabs the attacker and 'kills' him as the attacker reaches down to strangle him.

 

This same man, after having passed these and other tests, then received a military haircut and consistantly failed these tests, and many other tests that he had previously passed.

 

So the document recommended that all Indian trackers be exempt from military haircuts. In fact, it required that trackers keep their hair long. "

 

 

Comment:

The mammalian body has evolved over millions of years. Survival skills of human and animal at times seem almost supernatural. Science is constantly coming up with more discoveries about the amazing abilities of man and animal to survive. Each part of the body has highly sensitive work to perform for the survival and well being of the body as a whole.The body has a reason for every part of itself.

Hair is an extension of the nervous system, it can be correctly seen as exteriorized nerves, a type of highly evolved 'feelers' or 'antennae' that transmit vast amounts of important information to the brainstem, the limbic system, and the neocortex.

 

 

Not only does hair in people, including facial hair in men, provide an information highway reaching the brain, hair also emits energy, the electromagnetic energy emitted by the brain into the outer environment. This has been seen in Kirlian photography when a person is photographed with long hair and then rephotographed after the hair is cut.

 

When hair is cut, receiving and sending transmissions to and from the environment are greatly hampered. This results in numbing-out .

 

Cutting of hair is a contributing factor to unawareness of environmental distress in local ecosystems. It is also a contributing factor to insensitivity in relationships of all kinds. It contributes to sexual frustration.

 

Conclusion:

In searching for solutions for the distress in our world, it may be time for us to consider that many of our most basic assumptions about reality are in error. It may be that a major part of the solution is looking at us in the face each morning when we see ourselves in the mirror.

 

 

 

 

 

:)

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It seems that during the Viet Nam War special forces in the war department had sent undercover experts to comb American Indian Reservations looking for talented scouts, for tough young men trained to move stealthily through rough terrain. They were especially looking for men with outstanding, almost supernatural, tracking abilities. Before being approached, these carefully selected men were extensively documented as experts in tracking and survival.

 

With the usual enticements, the well proven smooth phrases used to enroll new recruits, some of these indian trackers were then enlisted. Once enlisted, an amazing thing happened. Whatever talents and skills they had possessed on the reservation seemed to mysteriously disappear, as recruit after recruit failed to perform as expected in the field.

 

Serious casualities and failures of performance led the government to contract expensive testing of these recruits, and this is what was found. When questioned about their failure to perform as expected, the older recruits replied constantly that when they received their required military haircuts, they could no longer 'sense' the enemy, they could no longer access a 'sixth sense' , their 'intuition' no longer was reliable, they couldn't 'read' subtle signs as well or access subtle extrasensory information.

 

So the testing institute recruited more indian trackers, let them keep their long hair, and tested them in multiple areas. Then they would pair two men together who had received the same scores on all the tests. They would let one man in the pair keep his hair long, and gave the other man a military haircut. Then the two men retook the tests.

 

Time after time the man with long hair kept making high scores. Time after time, the man with the short hair failed the tests in which he had previously scored high scores.

 

Here is a typical test:

The recruit is sleeping out in the woods. An armed 'enemy' approaches the sleeping man. The long haired man is awakened out of his sleep by a strong sense of danger and gets away long before the enemy is close, long before any sounds from the approaching enemy are audible.

 

In another version of this test the long haired man senses an approach and somehow intuits that the enemy will perform a physical attack. He follows his 'sixth sense' and stays still, pretending to be sleeping, but quickly grabs the attacker and 'kills' him as the attacker reaches down to strangle him.

 

This same man, after having passed these and other tests, then received a military haircut and consistantly failed these tests, and many other tests that he had previously passed.

 

So the document recommended that all Indian trackers be exempt from military haircuts. In fact, it required that trackers keep their hair long. "

Comment:

 

The mammalian body has evolved over millions of years. Survival skills of human and animal at times seem almost supernatural. Science is constantly coming up with more discoveries about the amazing abilities of man and animal to survive. Each part of the body has highly sensitive work to perform for the survival and well being of the body as a whole.The body has a reason for every part of itself.

 

Hair is an extension of the nervous system, it can be correctly seen as exteriorized nerves, a type of highly evolved 'feelers' or 'antennae' that transmit vast amounts of important information to the brainstem, the limbic system, and the neocortex.

Not only does hair in people, including facial hair in men, provide an information highway reaching the brain, hair also emits energy, the electromagnetic energy emitted by the brain into the outer environment. This has been seen in Kirlian photography when a person is photographed with long hair and then rephotographed after the hair is cut.

 

When hair is cut, receiving and sending transmissions to and from the environment are greatly hampered. This results in numbing-out .

 

Cutting of hair is a contributing factor to unawareness of environmental distress in local ecosystems. It is also a contributing factor to insensitivity in relationships of all kinds. It contributes to sexual frustration.

 

Conclusion:

In searching for solutions for the distress in our world, it may be time for us to consider that many of our most basic assumptions about reality are in error. It may be that a major part of the solution is looking at us in the face each morning when we see ourselves in the mirror.

 

 

 

 

 

:)

 

 

Wyrd,

This makes so much sense to me and validates some of my personal "understanding" of the human condition. Your parting comment resonates with me and is one to carry into the day and beyond.

FFFF

Elf

 

 

 

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It seems that during the Viet Nam War special forces in the war department had sent undercover experts to comb American Indian Reservations looking for talented scouts, for tough young men trained to move stealthily through rough terrain. They were especially looking for men with outstanding, almost supernatural, tracking abilities. Before being approached, these carefully selected men were extensively documented as experts in tracking and survival.

 

With the usual enticements, the well proven smooth phrases used to enroll new recruits, some of these indian trackers were then enlisted. Once enlisted, an amazing thing happened. Whatever talents and skills they had possessed on the reservation seemed to mysteriously disappear, as recruit after recruit failed to perform as expected in the field.

 

Serious casualities and failures of performance led the government to contract expensive testing of these recruits, and this is what was found. When questioned about their failure to perform as expected, the older recruits replied constantly that when they received their required military haircuts, they could no longer 'sense' the enemy, they could no longer access a 'sixth sense' , their 'intuition' no longer was reliable, they couldn't 'read' subtle signs as well or access subtle extrasensory information.

 

So the testing institute recruited more indian trackers, let them keep their long hair, and tested them in multiple areas. Then they would pair two men together who had received the same scores on all the tests. They would let one man in the pair keep his hair long, and gave the other man a military haircut. Then the two men retook the tests.

 

Time after time the man with long hair kept making high scores. Time after time, the man with the short hair failed the tests in which he had previously scored high scores.

 

Here is a typical test:

The recruit is sleeping out in the woods. An armed 'enemy' approaches the sleeping man. The long haired man is awakened out of his sleep by a strong sense of danger and gets away long before the enemy is close, long before any sounds from the approaching enemy are audible.

 

In another version of this test the long haired man senses an approach and somehow intuits that the enemy will perform a physical attack. He follows his 'sixth sense' and stays still, pretending to be sleeping, but quickly grabs the attacker and 'kills' him as the attacker reaches down to strangle him.

 

This same man, after having passed these and other tests, then received a military haircut and consistantly failed these tests, and many other tests that he had previously passed.

 

So the document recommended that all Indian trackers be exempt from military haircuts. In fact, it required that trackers keep their hair long. "

 

 

Comment:

The mammalian body has evolved over millions of years. Survival skills of human and animal at times seem almost supernatural. Science is constantly coming up with more discoveries about the amazing abilities of man and animal to survive. Each part of the body has highly sensitive work to perform for the survival and well being of the body as a whole.The body has a reason for every part of itself.

Hair is an extension of the nervous system, it can be correctly seen as exteriorized nerves, a type of highly evolved 'feelers' or 'antennae' that transmit vast amounts of important information to the brainstem, the limbic system, and the neocortex.

 

 

Not only does hair in people, including facial hair in men, provide an information highway reaching the brain, hair also emits energy, the electromagnetic energy emitted by the brain into the outer environment. This has been seen in Kirlian photography when a person is photographed with long hair and then rephotographed after the hair is cut.

 

When hair is cut, receiving and sending transmissions to and from the environment are greatly hampered. This results in numbing-out .

 

Cutting of hair is a contributing factor to unawareness of environmental distress in local ecosystems. It is also a contributing factor to insensitivity in relationships of all kinds. It contributes to sexual frustration.

 

Conclusion:

In searching for solutions for the distress in our world, it may be time for us to consider that many of our most basic assumptions about reality are in error. It may be that a major part of the solution is looking at us in the face each morning when we see ourselves in the mirror.

 

 

 

 

 

:)

 

Extreamly thought provoking :)

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Extreamly thought provoking :)

 

 

I agree, so the question is why do I keep my hair short. :cuckoo:

 

 

 

 

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Wyrd - that was very interesting. If you consider the animal kingdom, mammals whiskers, fur and tails often act as an extra sense so it would make sense for humans to have similar abilities. We lost our fur when we evolved sweat glands and yet some parts of our body retain hair, underarm and pubic hair is for hygiene reasons but the hair on our head has no "purpose" that we are aware of, but it seems (from what you posted) that it does indeed have an extra-sensory purpose. This is something I might look into more.

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I've always thought that older ladies with long hair look beautiful! I am growing my hair out right now, more for looks than for magic. But I do believe that hair is very potent, and have used spells with hair before and think they are very effective.

 

That's what I've always heard. I think it's funny how hard it is for me to dispel this belief, even though our times indicate women with shorter hair (especially older women, of which I am one), as much more 'with it' and stylish than those with longer hair.

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Himself, has hair longer than mine. Mine is passed shoulders. He stopped seeing the barber when he retired. I trim it for him, but again on a moon cycle. He also sports a beard, as that wasn't allowed when he worked. He jokingly muses that he should be clean shaven again. I give him " the "Look" with the added one eyebrow lift " and say, well go for it all cut your hair too. " He then winces, and mumbles, " I don't know about that, I'm accostumed to my hair, it's " who " it is to me "... Now what the hell is the " who " to him. He doesn't have a clue... as to " who ". lol. I just know that he would never go back to short hair, nor will he shave his face. I believe he responds to his hair, in a mystical way, yet can't quite put his finger on to what his hair means to him. " The who " .............

 

Regards,

Gypsy

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Wyrd - that was very interesting. If you consider the animal kingdom, mammals whiskers, fur and tails often act as an extra sense so it would make sense for humans to have similar abilities. We lost our fur when we evolved sweat glands and yet some parts of our body retain hair, underarm and pubic hair is for hygiene reasons but the hair on our head has no "purpose" that we are aware of, but it seems (from what you posted) that it does indeed have an extra-sensory purpose. This is something I might look into more.

 

 

 

 

Midnightblue - Many sea creatures have extraordinary electrical / electromagnetic senses; sharks come to mind, however they don't have hair, whiskers and the like, I wonder how that fits with the discussion, but I don't want to drift too far off topic.

 

Your comments about "underarm and pubic hair being for hygiene reasons" is interesting, care to elaborate on your thoughts and feelings.

 

Body hair traps moisture and bacteria providing an ideal breading ground, and is closely followed by it's best friend; BO, so I'm not completely convinced that they exists for hygiene reasons, but that's just my take on it, maybe they serve another purpose related to hairs ability to sense and transmit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Midnightblue - Many sea creatures have extraordinary electrical / electromagnetic senses; sharks come to mind, however they don't have hair, whiskers and the like, I wonder how that fits with the discussion, but I don't want to drift too far off topic.

 

Your comments about "underarm and pubic hair being for hygiene reasons" is interesting, care to elaborate on your thoughts and feelings.

 

Body hair traps moisture and bacteria providing an ideal breading ground, and is closely followed by it's best friend; BO, so I'm not completely convinced that they exists for hygiene reasons, but that's just my take on it, maybe they serve another purpose related to hairs ability to sense and transmit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

:)

 

Actually that may not be correct for underarm hair, but pubic hair works similar to nasal hair, stopping foreign particles from entering your body. Although that is less relevant for men than women. I'm not so sure on underarm and leg hair, they may well be a throwback from before our sweat glands developed and evolution hasn't quite caught up, I may look into it but I am fairly sure underarm hair has a function. It's just quite interesting that our heads still grow hair and quite a lot of it and I believe it must have some function other than to attract a mate.

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It's just quite interesting that our heads still grow hair and quite a lot of it and I believe it must have some function other than to attract a mate.

 

I would agree Midnightblue.

 

I'm in the process of looking for more info on the subject.

 

 

 

 

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I've not been to the hairdressers for over 20 years, I do trim my hair once in a while though, so it is gradually getting longer, it's past my shoulders, but the back is longer than the front. My hair and head are very sensitive, I hate my hair being pulled. If someone does pull my hair, my brain sends a message straight to my fist., Lol.

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