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Has anyone scryed using shadows. I've done that for as long as I can remember. I have never seen the future or anything like that. I see images - especially faces. I often go into a light trance doing this. sometimes I see quite strange things that don't make much sense

 

 

Actually, I know exactly what you are talking about. I do not really have names for many of my Craft-related practices, but your post describes a form of "seeing" that I have used since I was a child. I can't see the future, either, but I can see the past; flashes of people or objects.

 

Jevne

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Yes on the scrying with fire, the drift (although not to the extent mentioned in the article), water and shadows. I also use the tarot.

 

I have thought about the quartz ball, runes and mirror but have never gotten around to it. Plus I am a thrifty witch and buying an expensive ball is not high on my priority list.

 

I have never heard of the egg method.

 

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Actually, I know exactly what you are talking about. Like I've said before, my family doesn't really have names for many of our Craft-related practices, but your post describes a form of "seeing" that I have used since I was a child. I can't see the future, either, but I can see the past; flashes of people or objects.

 

Jevne

 

Thanks Jevne, Didn't really know if anyone else did this. I have been doing this type of thing since I was very, very little, think from when I was 5 or 6, but I think probably all kids can do this sort of scrying. I do this using other things such as patterns. However it works best with shadows. I have never stopped doing this, because I still have the same imagination I had when I was a kid, don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing sometimes. I've learnt to recognise what is imagination and what is something else, some other, however the two overlap greatly, its what makes things work with me, like clicking a switch. It's the same feeling I have in dreams, I just wish I could make sense of it more often. I've had dreams that have come true. But again I don't think of it as seeing the future. I think I just sense things and then they become images. Does that make sense? it can be difficult to explain.

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I have also been doing this type of thing, since I was little; though, I have never really thought of it as scrying. I'm quite adept at other forms of scrying (mirrors, pendulums and fire), and this just feels different than those. I have more of a sensation of seeing through the veils of space and time; like to other dimensions, but without the Star Trek music.

 

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Now, it isn't necessarily a specific pattern, but I'll see faces and objects on people and things. Almost like x-ray vision, but not quite that cool. Most of the time, the objects are terribly mundane and inconsequential, like chairs and trees. The faces are more interesting, but not usual of any particular importance. They may acknowledge me with a smile or nod, but most of the time, there isn't even a glimmer of response; like someone passing me on the street. I've spent my life in a world filled with Witchcraft, and as a result, see such things as natural. In other words, I'm not inclined to think there is anyone trying to convey some life-altering message to me. Sometimes, a chair is just a chair.

 

It is nice to learn of someone else who sees the patterns in the shadows.

 

Jevne

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I have also been doing this type of thing, since I was little; though, I have never really thought of it as scrying. I'm quite adept at other forms of scrying (mirrors, pendulums and fire), and this just feels different than those. I have more of a sensation of seeing through the veils of space and time; like to other dimensions, but without the Star Trek music.

 

I understand about the patterns . . . Right after my parents divorced, when I was 8, we moved into this trashy apartment, that was inhabited by a nasty spirit, which made my life a living hell for about 3 years. Anyway, in the bathroom, the tile on the wall formed a repeating pattern, that to me looked like 5 men standing in a row. They were my protectors.

 

My mother was already so torn up about the divorce that I didn't want to trouble her with the spirit that was torturing me, so I turned to my protectors. Whether by child's imagination or magical influence or both, one of the protector's shadows would lift out of the wall, like in a 3D movie, and help me. Now that I think about it, each of the 5 had some special purpose. One chased away the bad spirit. One sat with me, so I could sleep. Etc.

 

Now, it isn't necessarily a specific pattern, but I'll see faces and objects on people and things. Almost like x-ray vision, but not quite that cool. Most of the time, the objects are terribly mundane and inconsequential, like chairs and trees. The faces are more interesting, but not usual of any particular importance. They may acknowledge me with a smile or nod, but most of the time, there isn't even a glimmer of response; like someone passing me on the street. I've spent my life in a world filled with Witchcraft, and as a result, see such things as natural. In other words, I'm not inclined to think there is anyone trying to convey some life-altering message to me. Sometimes, a chair is just a chair.

 

It is nice to learn of someone else who sees the patterns in the shadows.

 

Jevne

 

 

Really interesting - never come across this so much in this context before - I see shapes in many things most days - shadows, patterns, glimpses of everyday stuff out of the corner of my eye changing into other things. Its so common an occurance I haven't been paying attention.

 

I am going to try to take more notice of the things I am seeing to see whether they have relevance. Just so busy!!!!! Must add to my list to do: a dream diary, an hallucination diary...!

 

By the way, the witch in the Robin Hood film (the one with Kevin Costner) broke an egg into a bowl, didn't she? to do a bit of scrying - interesting!:chakrahearts:

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I have also been doing this type of thing, since I was little; though, I have never really thought of it as scrying. I'm quite adept at other forms of scrying (mirrors, pendulums and fire), and this just feels different than those. I have more of a sensation of seeing through the veils of space and time; like to other dimensions, but without the Star Trek music.

 

I understand about the patterns . . . Right after my parents divorced, when I was 8, we moved into this trashy apartment, that was inhabited by a nasty spirit, which made my life a living hell for about 3 years. Anyway, in the bathroom, the tile on the wall formed a repeating pattern, that to me looked like 5 men standing in a row. They were my protectors.

 

My mother was already so torn up about the divorce that I didn't want to trouble her with the spirit that was torturing me, so I turned to my protectors. Whether by child's imagination or magical influence or both, one of the protector's shadows would lift out of the wall, like in a 3D movie, and help me. Now that I think about it, each of the 5 had some special purpose. One chased away the bad spirit. One sat with me, so I could sleep. Etc.

 

Now, it isn't necessarily a specific pattern, but I'll see faces and objects on people and things. Almost like x-ray vision, but not quite that cool. Most of the time, the objects are terribly mundane and inconsequential, like chairs and trees. The faces are more interesting, but not usual of any particular importance. They may acknowledge me with a smile or nod, but most of the time, there isn't even a glimmer of response; like someone passing me on the street. I've spent my life in a world filled with Witchcraft, and as a result, see such things as natural. In other words, I'm not inclined to think there is anyone trying to convey some life-altering message to me. Sometimes, a chair is just a chair.

 

It is nice to learn of someone else who sees the patterns in the shadows.

 

Jevne

 

Very interesting. The patterns you describe is like how I see them, I see faces and objects too but like you they mundane and not anything that seems important. The nasty spirit sounds horriable. But its great that you recognised your protectors.

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I typically do water-based scrying...either with a drop of oil in the water or without...I use only a small black cauldron that I have.

The other method I just recently discovered is EGG SCRYING.....has anyone ever heard of this one? It was pretty cool..and easy. While sitting quietly in front of one white lit candle, u hold the egg (raw), and quiet your mind..when u're ready, u pierce both ends of the egg with a pin, and let a few drops of egg WHITE into a glass of water...(the glass is about 3/4 filled). Don't touch the glass! Leave it be...wait a couple of hours..go back and see what you find at the bottom of the glass....I found an airplane..my bags are packed ;-)

 

Sounds interesting, I have not tried egg scrying. I do a lot of mirror and water scrying. I draw too and let the pencil flow. This is different, and a different type of feeling, But I also use this for scrying.

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I am interested in trying a black mirror, too, but for now, the water works well. I have found that I need to be in the correct frame of mind to have a successful scrying session. I need more practice!

I know the old black scrying mirror or obsidian ball is alot more aesthetically pleasing, but a switched off tv screen will do just as well or a monitor for that matter...

 

I love the British Museum and living in london I get to visit quite a bit.. one of my favourite artifacts is John Dees Obsidan Scrying mirror used by him and Edward kelly. Many times I have passed that mirror and stopped to gaze into it for a while.. :ninja: and always seem to find it hard to pull myself away...

 

Link to artifact below to those who may find it of interest:

 

http://www.britishmu...ees_mirror.aspx

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That's exactly what it is. You normally put the writing utensil in the opposite of the hand you write with, place it on paper and let it do it's own thing. You can ask questions or just let it go while you do anything else, like watch tv or something for instance or at least that's how I've always done it. You basically give something else control over your hand.

 

It's also good for spirit contact.

 

I wonder whats wrong with me. When I have done that, the writing is a mirror image - ie. backwards.

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Autumn Moon - I write backwards with my left hand naturally (I used to be left handed but woke up one day right handed. From then on whenever I've written with my left hand it's been backwards)

 

Yet whenever I have attempted automatic writing it has come out a mix of 'normal' writing and my mirrored writing - like having a conversation from two sides of the page, most of it comes out forward facing though with small interjections of my backward writing.

 

So in a sense I write backwards with automatic writing as well, but damn it's easier to read...

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Bumping this interesting thread. :)

 

One of the less 'common' forms of scrying I do is with blood and water. Set up some blood to slowly drop into a bowl or bottle of water and scry into the images. I think some people use the same method with ink, but I find blood gives me much better results.

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I use oil and water,I adapted this from a version that my nonna used for removing the evil eye.I have two large black glass tables in the garden as garden furniture that I also use amongst other things.I have an old varse with a large rim top.I painted the alphabet on inside of the rim and use with a pendulum. But fire is the most fun for me,well at least in the autumn it is.

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I use fire more often than not, but I've used black mirrors and crystal balls before with great results.

 

Another thing I do often (and my father does it as well, though I know he doesn't consider it magical) is just "space out." I let my mind go blank and it doesn't matter what I'm looking at, visions will come. Some days it's more vivid, some days it's just snippets, some days I just notice messages in my surroundings (like the drifting), but it never fails that if I just shut the world out for a minute, I'll pick something up.

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I was told once that closing your eyes you can just use the 'back of your eyelids' as a black mirror to scry on. That doesn't really appeal as much to my artistic nature as my homemade black mirrors I've done with ritual paint do, but it's a good thing to keep in mind for when you're on the go.

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I was told once that closing your eyes you can just use the 'back of your eyelids' as a black mirror to scry on. That doesn't really appeal as much to my artistic nature as my homemade black mirrors I've done with ritual paint do, but it's a good thing to keep in mind for when you're on the go.

 

Yes, I use this method as it works better for me. Scrying Results aren't the strongest for me but I can use this method with about 70% success compared to lower percentage for other methods but practice makes perfect.

 

I'm in two minds on scrying whether it is better to specialise in one or two methods or regularly change, but then if you had to scry another way due to outside reasons you could find it hard as you are 'too' used to using certain methods, however the specialisation could be of benefit as the scrying would flow easier.

Choices choices....

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Just wondering if anyone has use TV static to scry? I used to do this quite a bit as a child before I knew what scrying was.

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Just wondering if anyone has use TV static to scry? I used to do this quite a bit as a child before I knew what scrying was.

 

Not after seeing the movie "White Noise" lol.

 

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I use fire more often than not, but I've used black mirrors and crystal balls before with great results.

 

Another thing I do often (and my father does it as well, though I know he doesn't consider it magical) is just "space out." I let my mind go blank and it doesn't matter what I'm looking at, visions will come. Some days it's more vivid, some days it's just snippets, some days I just notice messages in my surroundings (like the drifting), but it never fails that if I just shut the world out for a minute, I'll pick something up.

 

 

I was told once that closing your eyes you can just use the 'back of your eyelids' as a black mirror to scry on. That doesn't really appeal as much to my artistic nature as my homemade black mirrors I've done with ritual paint do, but it's a good thing to keep in mind for when you're on the go.

 

I've used these methods very frequently in the past. Especially during highschool and college. I used to practise my craft in class when I was bored :D.

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I haven't done scrying with mirrors yet. But I think any medium that is reflective but not overly reflective is good wether it is a rain puddle that happen to be near a chair that you are sitting in the patio or the dark computer monitor when off. The key is to get that space out feeling while looking at it and then working from there.

 

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I was told once that closing your eyes you can just use the 'back of your eyelids' as a black mirror to scry on. That doesn't really appeal as much to my artistic nature as my homemade black mirrors I've done with ritual paint do, but it's a good thing to keep in mind for when you're on the go.

I never really thought about it until I read this post, but yes I've done this since I was a child. I don't have a scrying mirror, they never appealed to me, I have a crystal ball but as yet haven't used it. But just closing my eyes and using the back of my eyelids I always get results, and as you said it's great for when you're on the go.

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I'm not sure what I do is scrying we call it dream walking. I lay down and enter a trance like state that's not sleep more like that place just before sleep where your not aware of your current surroundings and then I let go of my body and walk through visions. They are easy to remember the one bad thing is I usually need someone to wake me because I can stay in that state for very long periods without realizing it.

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One of the less 'common' forms of scrying I do is with blood and water. Set up some blood to slowly drop into a bowl or bottle of water and scry into the images. I think some people use the same method with ink, but I find blood gives me much better results.

 

Now I must try this, that I decided to read the thread.

 

I decided to make an(oh so traditional) lampblacked scrying mirror, but no matter how hard I try to be one of those really visual people, I'm just not...I really have to be into it, or have a need.

 

On the other hand, I learned a really cool method that I use to check up on family members long-distance. I got a set of 8 crystal and silver tumblers, which were so not my style, so when I learned this method, they finally got a use. Each is consecrated to a different family member, on their birthday, with an identifier attached...I've tried filling them with liquid, but they work beautifully with just the crystal refraction, and it lets me check up on them mentally/emotionally. Maybe it's not really *scrying*, but it's close enough for me, and worth a mention.

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On the other hand, I learned a really cool method that I use to check up on family members long-distance. I got a set of 8 crystal and silver tumblers, which were so not my style, so when I learned this method, they finally got a use. Each is consecrated to a different family member, on their birthday, with an identifier attached...I've tried filling them with liquid, but they work beautifully with just the crystal refraction, and it lets me check up on them mentally/emotionally. Maybe it's not really *scrying*, but it's close enough for me, and worth a mention.

 

+1 love it!

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