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#21 ValarieAnne

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Posted 12 September 2009 - 02:34 AM

Thanks all for the interesting and insightful replies! Strangely, the other night we went down the street to Lake Ontario to pick some stones out of the water for rune making and were greeted with some kind of awesome tribal drumming going on across an inlet from where we were. Just goes to show that in the middle of several million people, you can still find a magickal moment when you least expect it. It made the stone picking even more enjoyable!

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Posted 12 September 2009 - 04:00 AM

I know what your feeling. I live south of you across lake ontario right on the lake itself. I cant stand to go to big places like the mall or the city. Too many loud places, people, screaming children and enegry, chaotic misplaced enegry.

I shop online, rarely visit places except at night, shopping for groceries is never better at 1 am! I just cant seem to control the enegry around me when i got to festivals and the crowds are large. I like the internet and the fact there are places these days that will do the shopping for you and bring it out to your house. I live on the countryside and like it quiet, peaceful and the sounds of nature all around. Toronto is lovely...to visit just like flordia for me is beautiful and magical, but i cant see myself living there. When i get my chance im moving to the adirondack mountians so i can live within nature and not worry so much about my neighbors barking dog!(i really should have lived in the 60's i think)


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Posted 12 September 2009 - 03:05 PM

When i get my chance im moving to the adirondack mountians so i can live within nature and not worry so much about my neighbors barking dog!(i really should have lived in the 60's i think)


Even in the country, in the mountains, you STILL deal with barking dogs!

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Posted 12 September 2009 - 04:15 PM

Only problem I have is i am 48 and I still havent figured out what i want to be when I grow up Oh well only time will tell ( oh sorry about the waffle i blame old age)


Ah I'm glad it's not just me who feels like that then!

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 10:16 PM

Even in the country, in the mountains, you STILL deal with barking dogs!


Once in a while is alright, but both neighbors i have right now are causing problems. Far enough away i may be alright, just as long as im not the last house on the left, yeh i just watched the movie!


#26 ValarieAnne

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 01:14 AM

Ah I'm glad it's not just me who feels like that then!

Fearn


Oh good so its not just me who sometimes walks by her mirror and says "Holy shit! Whos the old broad?!!" I did however, pretty much give up on the idea of having to be a "grown up", I can be wise in some ways and never bother with the convention of being all adult like in others!


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Posted 01 October 2009 - 09:44 AM

Hi ValarieAnne

Yeah i can identify with the feelings you describe although im not a city dweller. I reside in a small seaside town but still find myself totally out of synch with modern day living, the trappings of humankind, its laws and social constraints and conditioning. In my opinion modern day values are all skewed too.
In my particular case it probably doesnt help that im a Night shift worker. That means my hormones, melatonin etc and cicada rhythms are probably shot to pieces.
Don't forget too that the ways of the Witch and methods of working doesnt lend itself to comfortably fitting in with mundane every day life and the people we're forced by circumstance to interact with.


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Posted 03 April 2010 - 09:34 PM

I don't feel as though I belong. But I don't know if I belong in the past, or in the future. I often feel "out of phase" with everyone and everything else around me, though like, life resents me being here, sometimes. I shouldnt' be here, in the now, there's no room for me. Maybe it's why I always seem to be swimming upstream for every little stupid thing, when I see so much more just fall into other people's laps.

There are aspects of humankind's past I don't look fondly on though; it's easy to romanticize about previous eras, but just remember, no refrigeration, no running water, no supermarket or candy snacks, lack of medicines, shampoos, deodorant, etc.. it was a dirty, filthy, terribly difficult and harsh life.
Being that I have personally benefited from an orthodontist, a dermatologist, an optometrist, and other things.. well, I'd have probably either been dead by the time I was 20, (if living in tribal times) or exiled as a freak or something. Mother nature was not overly kind to me as a boy and teenager. Man's technology managed to fix those things - with braces, acne treatments, glasses/contacts, etc.. so I am indebted. I'm okay now, but if left to let nature take it's course, I'd be major-bucktoothed, pock-faced, and half-blind. A sitting duck for predators and an outcast. There are other physical battles I won't even go into it.

Anyway, I seemed to really click with computers, once graphic interfaces became the norm. So.. maybe I'm really a future child, just in the wrong time.. too far back in man's development?
Maybe in the future, we'll marry technology, science, spirituality, and the mystical somehow.. and scientists will acknowledge there is more to the universe than meets the eye.. (actually, they already are doing that, with dark matter and dark energy, and the zero point field).

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Posted 04 April 2010 - 10:16 AM

My mind is a bit boggled after reading a lot of the posts. I'm seeing many, many things here that I can relate to so very well.

My question is this: Do others of you feel totally in the wrong place and the wrong time? What I mean by that is, I guess, really out of place in modern world? I have absolutely never felt.... Im not sure how to even describe it, but maybe something like being dropped into the middle of a foreign and alien place? I live in a huge city now and I swear the place almost causes me a physical pain with its noise, smells and all of the crummy and nasty things that cities hold. Toronto is very proud of being a "green" city, but for all its trees and park spaces it still seems to have it's "soul(?)" stifled by a mass of humanity and ... well you get my drift I think!

I've often dreamed of being able to live somewhere in a simple way, away from so many people and modern things, to smell and feel the earth and its life forces etc around me, rather than the nasty hum of high tension wires, smog and the unpleasant chaos of society.

Since meeting my partner it has become easier, especially since he feels pretty much the same way. And of course we both know the realities of modern life. But still, the older I get the stronger this feeling is. And of course if it were not for some of the cursed realities of modern life, how would I be typing this now? :-)

I'd love to hear your thoughts and feelings on this!


Hi Val.

I don't feel I live in the wrong time. I would not like to go backward, I love the way we evolve and will continue to evolve. I am very drawn to `Medieval` times, but would not like to go back to that time without the knowledge of the here and now.
I do however feel I am in the wrong place, I have never comfortably sat in my life, never felt I fit. always on the outside looking in, that is not from want of trying, believe me I have. I always end up alone because I walk away from what does not feel right. My right will come, I know that. I do know I have to move far away from where I am before I find it. I need the wilderness away from the materialistic life, materialism is truly not for me and societies attitude mostly stinks.

Anita x


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Posted 04 April 2010 - 06:06 PM

I know exactly how you feel! When I'm older I want to live in a cottage in the woods. I mean.. I also get a bit paranoid, afraid of killers in the woods and such :/ But it's my dream to have a cottage with a hearth and herbs growing everywhere. I want be in my garden all the time. I want traditional english hedges and people coming to my house for potions and help! : D I also feel a strong pull toward the Victorian era as well, though. <3 I feel out of place in that most people (around here anyways) don't feel that strong connection towards nature. They don't feel as alive as I feel when I'm walking in the wind, in the forest, in the meadow! They don't understand what it's like to be fascinated by bones and herbs. But other than all of this, I'm happy living in a world of technology. It makes everything easier! I mean, it would be SO hard living in a world full of suspicious people. I'd have to sneak out and find witches to teach me and that would be so risky and hard to do!

Poor society. D:


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Posted 04 April 2010 - 06:43 PM

I'd actually like to live a marriage between the here and now, and the simpler times.
I would LOVE to live off the grid - so totally solar- and augment that with wind turbines or what have you.
I'd love to go as "green" as possible, within reason.
We actually have both tap water and well water on my property. So, here, I could - if we wanted, just use well water too.
I'd love to grow most of my own veges or fruits in my own garden too.
However, I draw the line at livestock. lol I just have no desire to raise cattle or chickens, too dirty, too much work, and I'd have to move, obviously. And of course, I still can't bring myself to abandon modern medicine and toiletries, etc..
I would like to brew my own beer and mead though!
I could even live without TV. It's total garbage anyway, except for history and discovery channels.

Ironically, I absolutely could not part with my electric guitars, amp, stereo, and CDs. I couldn't get by on just acoustic music alone, though I have a piano, several acoustic guitars, and a mandolin.

BTW, those people with electric cars, who feel they are "better" than you because they're "green", irk me. (Not everyone is like that, but some are) They should remember where the electricity for that car is coming from; unless their locale is powered by solar, nuclear, or hydro, chances are it's gas or coal powered turbines generating the electricity they use to power their car, so they're really only playing a shell game with their source of energy - they're no more green than anyone with an internal combustion engine car, overall.

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Posted 04 April 2010 - 06:58 PM

Another Victorian fan, here :wave: I live in a Victorian house at the moment...it used to be a hotel :) I have the central heating switched off permanently. Can't stand it, it makes me ill. I'd rather be cold...and I have been, but that's what extra layers and hot water bottles are for. I'm disgustingly healthy, rarely get even a cold. I like that things were hand made by trades people and not mass produced (so much), and horses were THE mode of transport. When I moved to Dublin, there were horses everywhere in the city centre, then the Control of Horses Act was brought in and now there's practically none. All the Guinness drays, coal deliveries, scrap merchants and tourist coaches were horse drawn. Now there's a mounted police force and that's it. Ripped the soul of the place :( Mind you, it probably smells better to some folk, and you don't have to watch what you're walking in so much........

Edited by Marion, 04 April 2010 - 07:00 PM.
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Posted 04 April 2010 - 07:17 PM

Give me a tent in a field, as long as i'm happy and content, that is all I want. :0(. lol.

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 08:56 PM

Hi everyone

I found this post very interesting to read. Give me much to think about. I do feel out of time quite often and that I don't really fit in, especially when I'm just walking around a town centre. Just today theres me with a scarf wrapped round my face because it is still cold, my hair tied up, no make up on, I prefer to be natural and a cardboard box in my hand full of little plants and some seeds, the next shop was the book shop, then the farm shop. A few people passed me and give me a funny look but I didn't care, but it does help me to understand why I prefer to be on my own some times. Don't get me wrong, a little dress will go on when its warm but come onnnnn its cold. Sorry I'm going off on one. Today people are already started to come out in t-shirts!!!! because its spring right. I live in the north of England so it cold. Anyway enough of that. My point is that just today as I was wondering through the town with my plants in my hands and ignoring the bustle, I thought about how I sometimes feel I don't belong in this time. But like some of you have pointed out the old times was not a bed of roses. Early death, poverty - i.e. relaying completely on the land and harvests. If you have had a good harvest, wonderful, if not you were in for a really tough time. Now yes we have health care, the internet, equality laws and so on. But in the old times there was community, wisdom and skills passed on for generations, people knew that community and family was important.

I agree with making your time and finding a balance. The way to do this for me is go to a farmers shop for eggs and meat, try to grow as much of my own veg as I can and make what ever I can make myself like soap making, using what I have in my cupboard for cleaning, lemon is great amongst others. and learn new skills such as making presents for birthdays etc. Ignoring commercialisation as much as possible and trying my best not to scream at people who are living an extremely wasteful life.

I do feel very blessed that I can step outside my door and there is my garden and I can walk up the road for about 30 minutes and I can be in a huge ancient woods, wonderful:hearts2:


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Posted 14 April 2010 - 09:59 AM

In certain aspects, I feel that I am out of my time, not so much out of my place...

There are many aspects of modern life that I could do without, such as poor quality processed food, to a certain degree television and sadly far too many people who have become selfish, direspectful and egotistical arses!

Looking back just 100 years, many areas had some form of community and those communities supported each other. People in general had respect for each other and for there possesions. I won't say that they had easy lives and I am certainly not saying that they didn't have crime to worry about. What they did have was a reasonable level of law and order... I am 37 an have lost count of the number of times I have heard things lke... "the local bobby gave me a clip round the ear for back chat and when my parents found out I got another for deserving it..." ... This kind of thing from people who are really only in the previous generation to mine...

To the people of my generation... When you were young, Did you ever have large games (20+ people) of Hide and Seek style games, such as Ralleo, Kick the Can... Big games of rounders in the local park and even the innocence of games of Tag??? Sadly the computer came into the home and Children stopped having their imagination stretched and they stopped in playing computer games all day long...

The computer... The double edged sword... The thief of the imagination in many.... The awesome tool, that enables people to communicate the world over, to hold forums such as these, which enable like minded people to communicate and offer advice and so on...

I live with my wife in a very rural area, we are surrounded by farmland and see the growing beauty of rural living and love seeing the seasonal change... Sadly we have neighbours who see living in the country as being snobbish and superior... Their homes are worth in the main no more than ours, they get jealous of what others have got such as a garden that is bigger and that keeps appearing bigger... Ultimately, it reverts me back to my original point that, sadly many people nowadays, lack so much respect for their neighbours and peers...


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Posted 25 May 2010 - 08:32 AM

I use to feel out of time. I can even remember being a kid and looking around at all the stuff.. like cars and airplanes, technology in general.. and becoming very overwhelmed. Almost like I was seeing it all for the first time and had no idea what it was. As I got older I had this very real feeling that there was something else. There was a door somewhere that I needed to find and if I found it I would finally get to go home. Because I most certainly wasnt home at the moment.

Now I think this is the feeling of Witch. One foot in, one foot out. We look at everything differently. We are out of time and out of place. At least what is socially acceptable and what would be considered the 'norm'.
And even beyond that. To cross the hedge, to go under the mound, to talk to the dead at their table etc.
That doorway I was looking for was witchcraft. Or rather the doorway to the rest of our world, the one most people don't even notice.

I just lost my train of thought... :blondmoment:


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Posted 25 May 2010 - 10:17 PM

I have that feeling a lot at times. I used to think I would do better a hundred or so years back but I love modern technology and long for things even more advanced. It's odd but I think it's a blend of what I was around as a kid. I grew up on a farm with my grandparents, growing and killing our own food. I was taught all those things of cooking and sewing, how to get by without technology, but at the same time there was a tv that in the evening would be on and that's when I got exposed to Star Trek. It didn't help that when with my parents my stepfather is a technophile but collected antiques and I got a computer when I was 5. Just a weird blend of things but I guess it could be said that I love the past and what it offers as far as being independent and capable, but I love the idea of what the future hopefully holds for us.

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 04:58 PM

I used to feel I was "born in the wrong time", until I really started reading history...and figured out that the eras I was dreaming of consisted of an awful lot of suffering and precious little toilet paper and, well...let's just say, a lot of knowledge took some of the romance out of it. (Didn't take the fascination out of it, though. I LOVE history.)

But yeah, I know what you all mean. I have always felt more old-fashioned than my peers, and have been forever attracted to certain time periods (and as a result, am something of a history buff). But knowing myself as I do, I also realize that if I had been born in one of those time periods, I would probably have felt like I stood out there, too. I think what it is, really, is me. My personality. My shyness, my hesitancy to jump right into the middle of things...and I think when we think of historical women, we think of life in general being calmer, less complicated, etc. But again...if you really really think about it...it's doubtful that's true.

My *personal* feeling on it is that sometimes, we wish for a past we never actually knew because what we're really wishing for is that life were simpler, and we have a skewed vision of the past as idyllic and very, very non-complex. Also, if one is a deep thinker, she may see the bulk of society as flighty and airheaded and way too...fast; as non-appreciators of the history we ourselves appreciate. We therefore assume that in the past -- the times we're idolizing -- way more people were deep thinkers just like us. But in reality I doubt that's true. During the time periods we're thinking of, it's almost guaranteed that there was a vast majority of non-deep-thinkers, and then a whole bunch of geeks just like us (but with different clothing) who were, themselves, considered "out of their element." And so on.

That's just me, though. And who am I to say...perhaps there really is such a thing as reincarnation, and people really have lived in times past. It's certainly possible.

Aaaaaaaaaaaanyway. Yes, I do feel out of place. But literally! I moved from the east coast to the west coast five years ago. I still have not assimilated. :( This is paradise. I should LOVE it. I don't. I want to be back in the woods!

Edited by autumngirl, 15 June 2010 - 05:03 PM.


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Posted 15 June 2010 - 05:28 PM

Now I think this is the feeling of Witch. One foot in, one foot out. We look at everything differently. We are out of time and out of place. At least what is socially acceptable and what would be considered the 'norm'.




Wow...that made a lot of sense. What a cool comment. And...I love the smilies too.:crystal-gazing::razz: Quite awesome!


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Posted 01 August 2010 - 11:13 PM

To reply to the OP, i do often feel i have lived in a different time period, i dont know how, maybe im a recycled soul. often times i'll have panic attacks that always seem to stem from modern day activities and thoughts, like needles, air planes, machinery, space ships, that sort of thing. I feel like if i didnt live in a time with all those things i would be such a happier person!!! maybe it's the longing for a different time which makes me feel out of place in this one?
Anyway, i so know what you feel like!

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