Divination: a gift or learned (or both!)
Posted 18 January 2009 - 08:07 PM
I was never taught the meanings. In fact, I throw those books away when i get new cards. I let each picture tell me its story. I then interpret each story according to where it comes in the reading and what the other cards around it are telling me. If a card talks about a birth and the other cards around it are going on about a new career, then the 'birth' will mean in that context. Likewise, with death.
Posted 29 November 2012 - 04:03 AM
That being said, I do not personally believe that a person should torture themselves forever, trying to learn a divination technique that is clearly not for them. Give it a try, sure, but if Tarot isn't for you, I see no reason to make it a big deal. There are plenty of effective divination tools and methods.
Posted 18 January 2013 - 08:05 PM
Posted 19 January 2013 - 07:06 AM
Posted 15 May 2014 - 01:28 PM
The difference between Medicine and Poison is the Dose.
I Love you as certain Dark Things are to be Loved,
In Secret, Between the Shadow and the Soul.
- Pablo Neruda
Posted 15 May 2014 - 06:37 PM
I think everyone has the ability, but some are stronger than others. That being said, I think everyone can strengthen or weaken their ability. For me, I knew I had it but it was (and is still) rather weak. So, I turned to something more systematic....tarot. Tarot has been my fool-proof method for many years. I've used others for many reasons, but for big questions I use my cards.
Tarot isn't for everyone. But, it's imperative to find the method that best suits YOU, not the world, just YOU.
Edited by Ravenshaw, 15 May 2014 - 06:39 PM.
Posted 15 May 2014 - 08:17 PM
I would be interested in opinions on whether the ability to divine is a gift or can be learned in an effective manner. I am crap at it, despite trying my very hardest, honest guv, although maybe I simply haven’t found the right method for me yet (have tried runes, ogham, and am still trying with tarot which is something I return to on a regular basis with renewed vigour but little success – maybe life is just too bonkers to concentrate at the moment).
If you have learned some form of divination, how did you learn (through books, one-to-one or online course etc)? What method would you recommend? Despite my current divination crapacity (as opposed to capacity) I seem to have an ongoing urge to find my way with it one day
I think most humans can do most things. Pretty much every person alive can draw a picture, but a few people are just more talented than the rest of us and fewer still go on to become master artists.
I learned tarot on my own. I bought my first deck when I was 18 because I thought it would be very cool and rebellious. I also bought "Tarot for Dummies", which I still have. The problem was that the Dummies book did not explain things in a way that I could understand them. When I first started to read tarot, it was like an illiterate person trying to read Shakespeare. Every card was like a paragraph I needed to decipher letter by letter, and even once I understood the individual words I couldn't comprehend how they fit together as a story.
I remained a poor hand at tarot until I started to learn about the deck as a whole, instead of the individual cards. Learning the history of tarot, the Fool's Journey (this is a link to it), how the elements work, general western symbolism, numerology, and how the deck itself is constructed and why the cards are what they are made my abilities in tarot grow by leaps and bounds. Even understanding the author of each deck helps me.
To answer the original question:
• I learned through books, chatting with people on a tarot forum, reading tarot theory and how other people read, and lots and lots of practice. With other systems of divination I learn in the same way.
• I would recommend people experiment with different methods of learning until they find one that clicks for them. For example, that post earlier in the thread how someone couldn't understand tarot until they took a class, or how I couldn't understand tarot until I approached it as a whole.
• I often stunted my own growth because I tried to do what other readers were doing, and not what I needed to do. The quality of a diviner is in their results, not their methods.
'Sir,' I said to the universe, 'I exist.'
'That,' said the universe, 'creates no sense of obligation in me whatsoever.'
Posted 16 May 2014 - 07:54 PM
Here's an over-simplification of my approach:
For me, all activities within witchcraft require me to be a conduit of some sort, whether to my shadow self or with something external to myself. But there's a distinction in HOW I'm a conduit: reactive versus proactive. When I'm crafting a spell, I summon all of my willpower and intent to manipulate and control energies to achieve the desired result (proactive). When I'm divining, I consciously divorce myself from the need to control, and use my willpower to silence any expectations I have and allow myself to be completely open to all intuitive impressions (reactive). Also, when divining I've learned it's counter-productive to try to intellectually interpret the information as it's coming in; this may not be the case for everyone, but for me it's the kiss of death to the flow of information. I also make a concerted effort to not allow feelings of "this makes no sense, I don't understand" pervade my thoughts- clarity and perspective is part of the process and will be revealed sooner than later (patience is another part of the process- staying 'Open' and reactive for a while after the actual divining session has been very fruitful for me).
Posted 10 June 2014 - 11:24 AM
Just relax. The Tarot will call to you when it's time. Continue to learn them, but don't worry about being skillfull at them yet. One day your studies will come to life and on that day you will be astonished.
I totally agree with this. I sucked at tarot for a long time, but one day I started getting better at it. One day, it just clicked for me. Another thing to keep in mind...the cards have a specific meaning traditionally, but the question is what do they mean to you?
Posted 10 June 2014 - 01:31 PM
Posted 19 July 2014 - 07:29 PM
One mistake I've done with divination is either doing a reading when I'm not "ready" (tired, sick, etc), or over thinking it. I try to clear my mind (I use cards, currently using the Marseilles deck) and follow my intuition. I take my reading with a grain of salt. I've always been drawn to divination and have been playing with Tarot on and off since I was 16. Like others said in this thread, it could be you need to find another form of divination, or maybe even a different deck. I have three, and they have differing degrees of "power" to me. I use whichever feels right to me at the time.