Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
phantasmagoria

How has Path Changed, or Stayed the Same, for you?

Recommended Posts

I thought this would be a good forum for this topic, so that people who are newer, and more "experienced" can read and share insight.

 

How has your path or practice changed over the years? Have there been any major shifts, and were they more gradual, or more immediate?

 

Perhaps your modalities, main practices, disciplines, or crafts have remained the same...or shifted? Do you consider yourself to be an evolved version of who you were years ago, or someone completely different? Are you solo but once were in a coven, or vice versa? Have you had any major shifts in ethics or morals?

 

Personally, for me, I have always been a solitary practitioner. Here and there I have attempted to work with others who were also metaphysically inclined in whatever way, whether intimate partners or acquaintances, but have found that it has never "taken." Of course, there is always a little bit of shared working here and there, as no-one lives totally in isolation, but, I'm remarkably solo, I've noticed, even though I have often wished that I wasn't, just so that I didn't feel so alone. But hey.

 

My core Craft interests have remained the same since I was a child: writing/storytelling, crystals, animals, and astrology and tarot (conflating them in this sentence even though they are quite distinct in my life and in general). I had a rock tumbler and a tiger eye as a kid, always had pets and wanted to be a Veterinarian when I was a girl (didn't work out that way exactly, but I have done work with animals in other ways), my only solo recognition in school was for winning a short story award, I got extremely into Sailor Moon as a tween (which taught me all of the planetary correspondences at a young age), and started protesting in middle school (by not dissecting, and by refusing to stand for the "pledge of allegiance to the flag," which I successfully continued until Graduation Day) Since then it's been very much the same, but in a more adult version.

 

I have gone through some "phases," though, that at the time I thought were going to be fundamental to My Career, but they ended up not really being it. Darkroom photography was one (starting in high school and then through college), and then toward the end of my Uni studies I began studying Fire Dance/"Flow Arts" (what a terribly indescript name, but it's the scene's choice of terminology), becoming quite adept (though not good enough to become honored in the field, sadly, though I was honored by being given the opportunity to immortalize that skill in a film credited to me) and it was a huge part of my life and identity for that time. But, really long story short, I fell out of it at almost exactly the 7-year mark. I still have a set of tools (a huge set of fire fans), that I purchased after that fallout, but I'm not sure why at this point, besides perhaps an unseen event in the future where I'll be called to perform. In fact, both of those interests, photography and firecraft, lasted about 7 years before fizzling out.

 

On the other side of the 7 year story, I made a very interesting discovery last night about my Tarot practice. I googled the date that I was booked for my first professional Tarot reading table, and that date corresponded with my first Saturn return, to the exact degree (he went Rx after that, so I had a few "exact" Saturn returns. Joy!). The 7 year span is a Saturn Square, and I am finding it pretty interesting that now almost 7 years later (6 years, to be exact, but still relevant) I am becoming much more invested in my Tarot studies than I was even when I was booked for that event.

 

My ethics and morals have remained pretty much the same, but I can think of one practical difference: I do have a long history with vegetarianism (that began at age 12), and have oscillated in that regard since then, but within the past few years have slowly, and quite painfully at times, come to "decide" on omnivorism, for the main reasons of more immediate nutrition, and allowing myself a better chance at survival by opening up the amount of things that I will allow myself to eat. After some experiences that I have had, and in seeing the plight of others who are in food deserts, I have become much more grateful for any food that is put on my plate, and taking care of my body has taken precedence over what used to be a very staunch moral stance.

 

Perhaps others' experiences will ring bells in my mind about other things I have overlooked so far.

 

Have you found that the major factors of your path have remained the same, or shifted?

Edited by phantasmagoria
  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

Simply put, I'm more "boring" now. 

 

I have learned that before Power comes Strength.

And before Strength comes Wisdom.

And before all, comes Love.

 

That's not to say you can't possess strength without wisdom, but wielding strength without wisdom is tyranny.

Or that you can't possess power without strength, but power wielded without strength is destruction.

 

And without love - then our work is ultimately for naught but trinkets and baubles. YMMV

 

 

 

.

Edited by WitchVillage
  • Upvote 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

That's a very wise post WitchVillage.

 

As for growing up, well, I look forward to seeing what I'm like once I accomplish that myself :lol:  It's a process that can't be rushed, I find, for when I have tried to rush that, I end up just causing more trouble for myself.

 

I find that on my path, a lot of loving myself is sort of like how I would love a child: being aware of what may seem to be endless errors, but being tremendously patient through all of that. Something tells me that "growing up" has a lot to do with fully embracing the "inner child." That is probably its own topic, though. But within this context, I find that my path often leads me right back to my childhood memories: working on healing them, or seeing in them truths, or pieces of myself that I had forgotten, "good" and "bad." Indeed childhood is when we are the most "open" to what we call the magical realms, to our true selves. We do well by learning to love that part of ourselves, and that part of ourselves in everyone.

Edited by phantasmagoria
  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

When I was younger, I felt compelled to learn EVERYTHING about the craft and somehow master all practices and disciplines.  It wasn't until only a few years ago, I learned to work through my talents and strengths and everything seemed to fall into place.  Instead on punishing myself for my poor divination skills and dangerous herbology, I embraced the aspects that I love.  I still have interest in those areas of course, but my need to 'master' them has evaporated.

 

Maybe this is what the adults call, 'maturity'.

  • Upvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

That's a fantastic dedication to have Sagefire. I can see why you use the term Sage in your username.

 

 

On 1/30/2020 at 3:17 PM, Sagefire said:

When I was younger, I felt compelled to learn EVERYTHING about the craft and somehow master all practices and disciplines.  It wasn't until only a few years ago, I learned to work through my talents and strengths and everything seemed to fall into place.  Instead on punishing myself for my poor divination skills and dangerous herbology, I embraced the aspects that I love.  I still have interest in those areas of course, but my need to 'master' them has evaporated.

 

Maybe this is what the adults call, 'maturity'.

Edited by WitchVillage
  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Dangerous Herbology!  That is hysterical for some inane reason.  I have done some of that myself!

  • Upvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have learned that before Power comes Strength.

And before Strength comes Wisdom.

And before all, comes Love.

 

 

Eloquently put, WitchVillage :-)

Edited by UnMasked1467
  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think what has stayed mainly the same for me is my idea of what being a Witch is. I have never adorned anything with crystals or had large amounts of occult paraphernalia. I am not particularly spiritual, nor is practicing a "Craft" a part of my life, per se. Being a Witch to me is an instinctual thing that affects my core way of viewing the world, with no real consideration for spirits or gods or even nature. It is simultaneously more cosmic and grand as it is personal and unassuming. It is part of my being, not always my doing. I can go for long periods of time without doing anything "witchy", but at the same time my entire way of thinking is "witchy" and I am in essence practicing spellwork every day just by how I view the world, always attracting what I want and removing the obstacles I don't, always working my will in the end. My instinct for Witchcraft is probably my strongest gift. Even as a 10 year old, I rejected all the Wicca fluff and spent years searching for what I knew to be "True" Witchcraft. This was also not an "eclectic" path, but rather a matter of Remembering and connecting with the right teacher. I don't see spirits (outside of rituals) or astral project or any of that. I create change around me and affect reality in ways parts of me still thinks must be impossible, I honor the Witch Mother, and I Remember. This is what I have done for the past decade and a half. Honoring the Witch Mother is probably the only really deistic thing I do, and this is done only because I have experienced her blessings first hand as direct results of rituals. No one is honored just because. She is worthy of honoring for what she does for Witches. She is who we come from and who we return to. She is not worshipped, however. I do not pray. I ask and honor. In essence, my craft is quite unchanged. It's not like a software that needs updating. I rejected most things that were presented to me and only slowly carved a path after years of Seeking. It has needed no altering and few additions. 

 

Edit: I realize I sound dogmatic so just a note that obviously these are my ideas of Witchcraft and being a Witch blabalablablabla I don't mean to say this is true for everyone else or to offend yadyadaydayda not saying anyone isn't a real Witch dududududuud OK great

Edited by Seekeroftheoldones
  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Actually Seekeroftheoldones I don't find your way of expressing how you experience it dogmatic at all, but actually very refreshing.

 

 

It's only been since I've actively been seeking, and diving into, community with other witches like me (through this forum) that I have been thinking of how I exist in the world in these more specific terms, and retroactively "analyzing" my path. Before this board I didn't really think of such things so much, and just did my thing instinctually. I didn't consider my activities as "craft," but I just did what I do, without trying to categorize it, or assign concepts to my mundane activities. All of that is in retrospect, looking at my history and attempting to construct a "story" for myself.

 

Through this forum I have been practicing understanding myself within a context of others like me, which often is a very challenging activity. In my quest to understand who I really am, I have made the best gains by receiving either direct feedback from other Witches in real life, or by observing other Witches and "comparing and contrasting" myself with them: not in a self-depreciating way, but in a neutral way, just seeing what makes me different, and where I am the same, which helps me to construct my own clearer vision of my identity. As a Leo-heavy person I really am all about figuring out what my identity, what my character is, developing it. But sometimes I can get caught up in that, I admit.

 

Like you I have found that somehow I "just get things done" but if I read your writing correctly, you seem to have a much better natural handle on your Will than I do. Much of my "seeking" has been to understand my natural abilities, and hone them, because although sometimes I can "bend will," often I can't seem to, and so my quest has often been about learning how I can become more adept at my natural skills. I've historically exposed myself to a tremendous amount of information, formal and informal, which can sometimes be good, but also sometime bad, because my consciousness can become overwhelmed, and my brain often spends a lot of energy just parsing and sorting what is "mine" from what "isn't mine." In many ways, when I was a child and teen and much more of a loner, I knew who I "was" more clearly than I do now. But, I was also much more unhappy in a "human" sense, so it's a balance.

 

Since beginning to spend a lot of time here, I've been learning to understand how what I do fits into a larger "discourse," which also helps me to understand myself better as an avatar/character/embodiment. I did not even know of the Witchmother or Witchfather before coming here, but knew that I was unusual in my natural abilities to "make things happen."

 

That we are able to connect through this forum really changes the game, in general I'd say, but also in a more personal sense. It's led me to focus a lot more on "craft" stuff, because when it comes to innate knowing, there isn't much to say, unless I'm inspired to prophess, but that can get lofty really fast, haha.

 

I started pursuing crafts, divination forms, niches, etc, because I found that it was becoming increasingly difficult for me to exist in the world without living the identity of a "witch." I just sort of fell into it when, increasingly, I found that I couldn't progress without pursuing the crafts, the research, etc. So, it's become very much my identity in the world, and the bulk of my mundane pursuits. But what you say about "remembering" strikes something in me. I appreciate your sharing very much. I find what you have to say very pure.

Edited by phantasmagoria
  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I've dropped a lot of things that just didn't work for me, like complex rituals. The things that do work for me, I've tried to make simpler as time goes on.  

I don't feel so rushed to do a ritual within a certain frame of time.  Sometimes I take MONTHS to get ready to do something, doing a little bit here and there, sort of letting it "cook" for a while until I'm ready. 

I've also integrated more of my craft into my every day life and into my art.  

I'm also more open about what I believe with people I trust.  

  • Upvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You know, I heard that "love" is in fact source energy... 😏 So I predicted that our paths are "cough, cough" predestined with the things we shall "love" - the source energy in us activates from interacting with them. 

Let me tell you, I have changed (evolved is a better word) A LOT since I first joined here. I was a teenager then & I'm 28 now. This forum is the only forum I am comfortable with. 

One of the most important things I have learnt is that because our lives seem predestined, we have to be very careful to listen to ourselves intuitively. The magick is source energy which only flows through us freely when we are feeling love (AKA huge source energy activation) & in a state of higher consciousness - that means no lower "vibrations" as some refer to it. 

Us, as witches, are conscious of what we can do. However, acting on typical human logic systems & ideology does not seem to work very well for us. 😉😏 That's because those very human aspects may help us to fit in with the muggles, but simply by being witches we are technically more evolved consciously & we cannot restrict ourselves to muggle perspective, outlook & behaviours. That's why people often treat us differently, they know subconsciously we are different & they simply cannot understand it. They just can't pinpoint why because it's our vibration. 

Imagine trying to explain to a dog how it feels to be a wolf? 

Witches seem predestined to follow the source energy... We were all activated by various circumstances, as what happens to shamans & other people in various cultures. 

 

When we do not act as we are called to & we follow typical human patterns... Well we end up with unhappy witches, the source loses out on spiritual workers, the magick in the human world dims, etc, etc. 

 

Seems witches are the ones who are more human guardians here on earth than anything tbh, we are also altering human consciousness & behaviour around us. Because we can maintain source energy consciously, we are able to alter the energy states around us very well for at least 50ft... Has anyone ever noticed this side effect of being a witch? Because I have. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Additionally I ditched most old traditional magickal working methods. Why? Because they are outdated & irrelevant now unless you believe in them. Things such as planetary hours, etc, never improved my workings, in fact, they hindered them. I do not believe physical aspects have much influence on my work, so days, hours, planetary alignment etc, are all irrelevant to me. 

 

Unless you are working with a specific spirit or diety who specifically requests you use a certain planetary hour, they really are, for spell work, fucking pointless to me. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Personally,  I am not the person I was when I joined this forum. I have changed A lot.

I came here for a REBOOT, a start over.

 To throw out everything I had been taught, believed and practiced for a lifetime that was not working  and to find the TRUTH about what does work. I am in the process of doing that.

My actual actions...some has changed. For example  I never really  connected with the earth, sky, moon, plants and animals before... I  get energy from and enjoy them now.

...BUT mostly, what I think, feel, believe, understand about LIFE and  my  spiritual practices/workings is different.

 I will go now I am getting teary eyed writing this!

 

 

 

Edited by Homeschoolie
Paragraphing

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have always been a solitary witch. I have had friends, and still do, who I discuss some relevant matters with... but I prefer everything done solitary and in secret. Magic feels very personal for me. It’s like sex. I might tell my friends about it but I’m not asking them to join. 
One thing that has changed is my sense of fear and restriction. Two years ago I reached a major turning point where I genuinely embraced all of myself, witchcraft included. I realized many of my boundaries and limitations are self imposed. Many things unfolded swiftly after that. 
 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think I've had a bit of an ADD path.  They say I can't stay focused on my path, but they just don't understand.  Oh look!  A chicken!  Maybe a chicken is my animal guide!

That accurately reflects my temperament during nursing school.  I really struggled to get anything out of someone reading power point slides to the class.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 1/30/2020 at 3:17 PM, Sagefire said:

When I was younger, I felt compelled to learn EVERYTHING about the craft and somehow master all practices and disciplines.  It wasn't until only a few years ago, I learned to work through my talents and strengths and everything seemed to fall into place.  Instead on punishing myself for my poor divination skills and dangerous herbology, I embraced the aspects that I love.  I still have interest in those areas of course, but my need to 'master' them has evaporated.

 

Maybe this is what the adults call, 'maturity'.

You may find it manifested since you stopped desiring it. Got to love the universe for such stupid quirks. 😉😂👍

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have touched on this subject before, probably the only interesting addition to this topic as far as my story goes, when I started out I got into EVERYTHING occult and one of my main interests was ghosts. Being just a kid I didn't know what a ghost was exactly but it sounded awesome..so..ouija, rituals, scrying..anything, just to gain contact. And I did, very easily so. It was frightening !

I still remember so much from that day, it was not at night, not in the dark, not anything that you would expect. It was that one day when I did not follow any ritual or ouija. Me and my friend at the time who was also into anything spiritual was in my room messing around with my "witch bag", I had a bag that I kept my herbs, crystals etc in. A really cool bag that you can wrap out like a cloth - I have posted photos of it on my IG - anyway, I use the bottom for divination. Point being, in the beginning apart from the scary first meeting and the constant feeling of being watched during the following months or so things started to get really interesting.

It sound pretty cliché The Craft (all though this was way before that movie..) when I say that my "spells" started to REALLY work. They had prior to the meeting as well but nowI felt a bit like I wasn't quite in control but I could make bigger things happen. However, it was always a price to pay.

Fast forward 30 years my path is pretty much the same, I have always been open minded and added whatever feels right to my craft, be it trad. norwegian, shamanistic related, rootwork..anything that feels right. But the one thing I want to change is the entity. I have been thinking about the possibility of changing it, trading it for another. I know, what is she saying ? Basically I want to find a specific spirit, demon, call it what you want, and hopefully give my services to that in order to trade.  have never heard of such a thing but then again I have experimented with unheard of things before with often good results. I'm rambling..recently I have been studying demonology whenever I have a spare moment trying to find a entity that feels right. I know chances are slim but, anyone else been in a similar situation ?

Maybe I sound ungrateful but trust me, I can feel it getting worse, I think I am next at some point if I don't suck it up and put on my big girl boots and kick this demon bastard out of my life.(in trade of another one...😳  )

So, that's the change I've gone through the last 30 + years. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 hours ago, NorwegianWitch said:

recently I have been studying demonology whenever I have a spare moment trying to find a entity that feels right. I know chances are slim but, anyone else been in a similar situation ?

Maybe I sound ungrateful but trust me, I can feel it getting worse, I think I am next at some point if I don't suck it up and put on my big girl boots and kick this demon bastard out of my life.(in trade of another one...😳  )

So, that's the change I've gone through the last 30 + years. 

Well, that's demons for you!

Try this website by a Demonologist friend of mine.  https://www.infernaldialogues.com/   You might find help there.

Edited by Onyx

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sorry, I'm troubleshooting that web address.  Link does not seem to work.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
18 hours ago, Onyx said:

Well, that's demons for you!

Try this website by a Demonologist friend of mine.  https://www.infernaldialogues.com/   You might find help there.

I read through the blog, a lot of great stuff for sure ,but very introductory for the most part. At least from my point of view. Or my needs,I should say.

Thing is, I'm not sure it is the same entity anymore. First off, there is very little discussion around the subject, mostly the conversation is possession, I am not possessed. However I am not in control. In the beginning there wasn't a lot of change, just little things, then after about 5 years or so my dreams and goals just came true, I had to work at it by all means but I somehow just knew what to do, and how, and then some. And this just escalated to the point that I didn't have to lift a finger anymore. But it took some time for me to see the pattern - gain, lose. Because the gain and loss was quite modest. These days however I have to watch my thoughts. Shit go down, horror movie style. It is so bad I can't even mention it here.

I have been thinking about banishing, but I don't even know what I am dealing with. In the beginning it was certain that this was a feminine spirit, but as I have been so wrapped up in my "good fortune" living my best life, as evil as it may be, something have changed, the entity does not feel feminine anymore. And that's all I know. It is different. 

I started out with Qliphoth on a very basic, non-understanding, childish level as a kid. I think that's the cause. Ouija doesn't seem right, this is not a simple spirit, they can not perform on such a level. Seems like I need to trace my steps. Thank you for your input, I'm very thankful. This is really getting a bit much..to say the least.

Edited by NorwegianWitch

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Of course it will be introductory, Tory is not going to  just give out all his secrets to the common web surfer.  We would have Demons popping up all over the place summoned by 13 year olds.

Maybe you could have e-mailed him about your problem.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, Onyx said:

Of course it will be introductory, Tory is not going to  just give out all his secrets to the common web surfer.  We would have Demons popping up all over the place summoned by 13 year olds.

Maybe you could have e-mailed him about your problem.

Yup, I was one of those back in the day. I recall when being a newbie here I mentioned how great this forum is for people in need of help, if I had that back then..oh my gosh, how things would have been different. I think I'm on to something actually, hope so, I need to learn more about the Qliphoth, pretty sure that's where it all started. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have heard it said "Never summon anything that you can't bannish!"  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Sign in to follow this  

×
×
  • Create New...