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#1 Adare

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 05:22 AM

How do people here like to work with live plants? For me, I gather my small potted plants to stand watch as witnesses or sentinels when I do workings. I'm don't know what inspired me to do so, but it makes me feel less lonely and so it's what I do now.

 

Sometimes I forget to water my plants, but I'm trying to motivate myself by using the watering time as a moment to connect and reflect upon my grandpa, who I remember always took the time to water and cultivate his plants on the balcony when I was a child.

 

I was curious how others here find ways to connect with living plants and how it has influenced your craft.

 

Edited to clarify I mean live plants


Edited by Adare, 09 February 2019 - 06:25 PM.

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#2 FrozenThunderbolt

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 06:57 AM

Grow them, kill them, weep for them. Grow them again.

Eat them, drink them, smoke them, wear them.

Tincture them and distill their oils.

 

Capture their Alchemal essence in a spagaric preparation.

 

Grind their body, blood and bones to make your incense.

Carve them to make the tools of your craft.

 

Plant them to guard you home and boundaries.

 

Visit them and leave offerings of yourself to help connect with their spirits.

 

Sleep with them, meditate with them, lay with them and put down your roots.


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#3 Adare

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 06:30 PM

"Sleep with them, meditate with them, lay with them and put down your roots."

I like that! Need to meditate with them more. I realize I needed to be more specific – I meant working with live plants. I feel like I come across a lot notes about how to use their parts for ingredients and materials, and wanted to see what other kinds of ways people have to engage with them.


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 07:20 PM

I had to leave all mine behind when I moved countries, and I’ve slowly been growing the collection again. I keep them around as friends, to liven up the place in the dead of winter, to act as warning signs, and to generally turn the house into a jungle. They help create the space I want to live in. I spend once a week watering, feeding, and talking to them.


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#5 Onyx

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 07:42 PM

I breathe on my plants and talk to them, they like the carbon dioxide from your breath.
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Posted 09 February 2019 - 08:39 PM

It's only in the last year or so that I've become more interested in house plants (no garden) and my connection with them grows greater the more time I spend with them. I don't mean a connection in a conversing sense or anything like that, just caring for them, watching them grow, gives me an emotional connection to them. I whisper words of encouragement to them, but talking with plants and trees is something I've always done. My apartment definitely has a different energy to it, now that I have some bigger plants. Not sure what that is yet, guess I'll just have to buy some more  ;)


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 09:12 PM

 My apartment definitely has a different energy to it, now that I have some bigger plants. Not sure what that is yet, guess I'll just have to buy some more  ;)

 

 

All my plants are still small.  :(  The hardest one to leave behind was an eight foot tall bird of paradise who used to cuddle anyone sitting in the chair next to it. I named her Audrey. 


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 09:14 PM

As far as growing, for whatever reason I do fabulously with outdoor plants and am a veritable plant slayer indoors... an issue I need to figure out, lol.
Relationship wise... (obviously you can’t do all of this with certain plants) but I sit on the ground by them, touch them, some I literally kind of bury my face in, but basically whatever proximity is reasonable and while doing so get a feel of the plant. I have a little “game” I play where in this process I ask “what is it you (the plant) want to do,” what is its natural inclination, what is it good at/for. I have found that most of the time what I sense the plant “wants” to do will match a known benefit or property of the plant when I later later look it up. (Try this with stones as well.) This accomplishes a few things. It’s a good exercise for me to practice “reading” the energy and spirit of a thing. Also, be it plants or stones, or anything- you may find 20 properties listed for a given thing. But, YOUR particular lavender plant (for example) may really excel at one or two of them. Also, there is a type of relationship formed here. You are caring for and getting to know this plant, that hopefully will later serve you well. I think connection with the spirit of a plant creates a far more powerful ally than simply treating them as ingredients. Even if I purchased the plant as a dry herb, taking the time to connect with the spirit of the plant before using it, creates a far more potent outcome. Sometimes you may discover that what you were about to use isn’t really in line with your intentions and adjusting your plans may be in order.

But basically, in working with any organic matter there is an opportunity for a type of interaction, relationship, and cooperation- so I try to make the most of that.

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Posted 05 July 2019 - 03:20 AM

As far as growing, for whatever reason I do fabulously with outdoor plants and am a veritable plant slayer indoors... an issue I need to figure out, lol.
Relationship wise... (obviously you can’t do all of this with certain plants) but I sit on the ground by them, touch them, some I literally kind of bury my face in, but basically whatever proximity is reasonable and while doing so get a feel of the plant. I have a little “game” I play where in this process I ask “what is it you (the plant) want to do,” what is its natural inclination, what is it good at/for. I have found that most of the time what I sense the plant “wants” to do will match a known benefit or property of the plant when I later later look it up. (Try this with stones as well.) This accomplishes a few things. It’s a good exercise for me to practice “reading” the energy and spirit of a thing. Also, be it plants or stones, or anything- you may find 20 properties listed for a given thing. But, YOUR particular lavender plant (for example) may really excel at one or two of them. Also, there is a type of relationship formed here. You are caring for and getting to know this plant, that hopefully will later serve you well. I think connection with the spirit of a plant creates a far more powerful ally than simply treating them as ingredients. Even if I purchased the plant as a dry herb, taking the time to connect with the spirit of the plant before using it, creates a far more potent outcome. Sometimes you may discover that what you were about to use isn’t really in line with your intentions and adjusting your plans may be in order.

But basically, in working with any organic matter there is an opportunity for a type of interaction, relationship, and cooperation- so I try to make the most of that.


I feel the exact same way and also play the same game. Nice to know I’m not the only one who thinks of plants this way and interacts with them as such.

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Posted 14 July 2019 - 04:00 AM

I have always been attuned to/with flora, as well as fauna. As a kid, I would climb trees, sit in them, read, chat with them, touch them, close my eyes and just feel their pulse, their rhythm, their life flow. I could not understand how others did not feel that, but could feel it with other animals (and some people not even with other humans, let alone other animals). For me, everything always had this common pulse, or energy, or whatever you want to call it. When I was traveling a lot (away more than 8 months of time each year... a few weeks away, one or so home, repeat), it was tough to have any plants in my home. Once i was traveling less, I always had lots of plants, and I would sing to them, hum, just kind of... commune with them I suppose. Hard to explain. Sometimes I hear their names, or something they accept as my name for them. Certain plants/trees I have considered friends. I hope they considered me one as well.

 

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#11 Holdasown

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Posted 17 July 2019 - 01:37 PM

I love growing things and love my plants. I have an aloe plant I not only talk to but tend to touch when I am watering it or standing next to it. I just started a box with herbs and a mugwort patch. They mugwort is just now getting to six inches tall. I poured out an offering to them. I tend to work with wood and plants almost exclusively. I don't have any gems or crystals or anything like that. I use them in cooking and to make salves and things. I feel like plant spirits are easy to work with since they have been doing it with people for so long. 


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#12 Onyx

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Posted 17 July 2019 - 07:07 PM

I also tend to touch and talk to my plants as well, I pet them and tell them they are beautiful and growing well.
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Posted 02 August 2019 - 03:23 PM

I have no gift of green anything in my body or my bloodline. Well, actually I take that back, my mom has a penchant for growing anything that isn't straight up calcified, but I don't seem to have inherited that from her. :(

And I don't eat veggies often--my body remembers more than I do what happened the first times I had vegetables and soups.

 

I sometimes feel like this makes me a bad witch, but then I realize I can literally feel others' body pains and dredge up hidden truths they hadn't meant to tell me. So I'll take it as a trade off. I have considered stopping at the garden store and getting some low-maintenance succulents and naming them for loved ones. I saw it as a little anecdote floating around the internet somewhere and kinda thought it was a good idea to practice. But I'm still shit with plants. So iunno if I'll ever actually do it.


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Posted 02 August 2019 - 04:43 PM

I cannot imagine a home without plants.  

They lend a unique spirit to our personal space and the more varieties and 'personalities' you combine, the deeper and more profound this spirit presence is.  If you have the space it is wonderful to have transition areas from indoors to outdoors filled with plants so that there is a continuum of life force and energy.  Virtually every room should have something growing in it!


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Posted 03 August 2019 - 03:42 AM

I can imagine that, I've visited homes that had lots of plants before and have always felt them to be rather warm and welcoming. I have tried growing plants when I was younger--they never took or they would take and die right after... I think I got the message, lol. In lieu of not being able to really fill my space with living plants, I had my husband hang up some plastic vines around the doorway to the apartment to set the mood coming in. Everything else we try to leave as minimal as we can, to let the air flow through better. Coincidentally we're both air signs, though I doubt that was a contributing factor when we decided on how the apartment should be early on.


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Posted 04 August 2019 - 06:05 PM

All my house plants are out in the garden for the Summer, but when Fall comes they are right back in the house. Plants seem to love me, I have the touch I guess.
I think the trick is to not pamper them, you can kill them with kindness. talk to them, touch them, tell them they are doing a great job.

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Posted 05 August 2019 - 12:17 PM

 I pet them and tell them they are beautiful and growing well. 

 

 

I do also tell to some of mine they looks terrible and if will not look better in week...evil me. 

I tell nice things all the time only to cacti. 


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#18 Onyx

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Posted 05 August 2019 - 08:02 PM

Sometimes threatening them works too!
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Posted 06 August 2019 - 04:58 AM

Plants have always been a kind of traditional thing for me and my family. There are certain plants that we’ve gathered or grown and used for generations. When my grandmother (mother’s side) came to the US she taught her kids to use the plants that she knew growing up by buying seeds and growing them. My grandmother on my father’s side was from the same town in Italy (interestingly enough) and used the same plants for the same purposes. There was no “witchery” involved, just practicality and the belief in spirits. (Maybe witchery, but good luck if you say that to them.)

Growing up my parents would take us up to the mountains or down to the river a LOT. I always thought it was fun to play I-Spy with the plants and find ones that smelled, looked, or felt similar to the plants that were considered important to us. It kind of sparked a rehashing of old customs on family camping trips. I remember a lot of different tests, conversations, and heated debates going on around the local flora and their integration into the old systems we used as a family.

It didn’t mean much at the time, but looking back it taught me a really valuable lesson. There is no master list for plants in practice. However, practice is key to mastering plants. Knowing that I played a part in reshaping a family dynamic and widening the base of knowledge for generations to come feels pretty good.

The point of this is we all found the local stuff to be VERY potent. More potent for me than my parents, and more potent for my parents than my grandparents. I think there’s a legitimate spiritual power and resonance with plants that naturally inhabit the same space you do. I really feel that using some store bought incense from a tropical or middle eastern plant to accomplish magical works won’t be as potent as using the spirits of your own place who care just as much as you do about the area and it’s populace. (You know, unless you live in the tropics or Middle East...)

I would encourage anybody and everybody to look into local flora and it’s folklore or actual chemical components to find similarities with plant material they’ve been taught about from other regions in order to find good substitutes. The power of a Place is a reoccurring in almost every magical tradition under the sun and moon. I don’t think it just pertains to a single spirit at a big rock. Take advantage of it.

I feel like this would apply to people that are new to an area or people who live the life on roam as well. I’d like to get some feedback on that if anybody has any.

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 07:40 PM

My old friend Iron Horse always learned me that everything can be your ally. Plants, stones, rivers and streams, the ground we're living on, the forests, old stories, the hills and mountains, the weather and so on. Building an alliance with plants takes time. One thing I learned by experience is that plants and trees have another pace in communication than we as humans have. In the beginning that was for me a big big obstacle. I tend to communicate (much) faster than plants do. At this moment I'm offering manure to my climbing rose and prune the rose in shape so I can use one branch to make a wand of it. That branch is growing thicker and thicker now. I believe one day it will be thick enough to be a decent and powerfull wand. Maybe I'm gonna share some blood with that rose to, as the ultimate bonding ritual .... Is there somebody who has experience with offering full moon or other special waters to a plant? What kind of effects did you experienced?
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