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#1 Wezip

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Posted 04 January 2019 - 08:42 AM

I recently looked in to my DNA ancestry and that got me to researching witches from the regions that came up...

Do any of you know of famous witches or traditional Irish / Russian / Scandinavian witchcraft practices? So far, Baba Yaga has been the most common search result...

I found out that I am mostly Ulster Irish (like 98%!!) I was kind of disappointed to be honest, I think I wanted a more interesting mix..., but also partly northwest Russian, and partly Scandinavian...

More interestingly, have any of you looked in to your ancestry? Have you discovered anything cool?

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#2 Khundekling

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Posted 04 January 2019 - 10:24 AM

Do any of you know of famous witches or traditional Irish / Russian / Scandinavian witchcraft practices? So far, Baba Yaga has been the most common search result...
 

 

There's quite a few threads on here about practices of different countries. I think you may find more info on Irish witchcraft if you look for Celtic. There's also one on Scandinavian witchcraft if my memory serves me. 

 

I bought DNA kits for my parents, didn't come up with any surprises though. This one split Welsh, Scottish, Irish as Celtic and a separate one for British. Which I don't quite get but whatever. The majority of British people are no more than 30% and my father is 60%.


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Posted 04 January 2019 - 07:32 PM

I am mostly from Scandinavia 42% and the rest a mix of all the European countries and only 18% British. Those darn Vikings are responsible for everything.
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#4 UnMasked1467

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 02:54 AM

I've thought of getting a DNA kit, but I know my ancestry pretty well already-- I'm Russian and Irish on my mom's side, and on my dad's I'm German, Pennsylvania Dutch, English, and French. Although I'd be interested in looking up witchcraft traditions from those regions, I'm more interested in my specific background, i.e., my ancestors. I can't explain it, but my father's paternal side draws my interest specifically. My Irish grandma (on my mother's side) and I played around with the tarot, runes and astrology when I was a kid, so there is something witchy there for sure. But there is also something about my grandfather on my dad's side that is curious to me. A lot of secrets died with him, it seems. 


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#5 skelef0x

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Posted 21 February 2019 - 04:52 PM

I've thought of getting myself an ancestry DNA test as well, since I don't know much about my family history. I feel like it would be a good place to start.

I've always wondered if people have an instinctual connection to their heritage cultures--I've always been inexplicably drawn to the Scottish portion of my heritage more than the other possibilities for seemingly no reason at all. Maybe there's a correlation.

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#6 Khundekling

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Posted 21 February 2019 - 05:29 PM

I would take those DNA tests with a pinch of salt. You would need to get quite a few done, from different sources and compare the results. After all, there is no real way you can check yourself if the results are true unless you know someone who works in a lab where they do that sort of thing.

Plus how far do you go back? If what they say is true and the whole human race can be traced back to a woman in Africa 200,000 years ago, are we all African? If we are all African then should we all be looking into the ancient traditional African belief systems?  


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#7 GraceWhite

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Posted 21 February 2019 - 05:57 PM

I don't really see why not, although in my opinion it makes more sense to study more recent beliefs that are more relevant given their proximity in time. Magic seems to work the same way regardless of origin imo, it's just a matter of what plants, minerals and animals were around at the time, and changes in style - which are different from practitioner to practitioner let alone region to region
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#8 Khundekling

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Posted 21 February 2019 - 11:15 PM

Sorry that last part was meant to come across as sarcastic  ;) 

 

Looking into any belief, practice or tradition IS fine. But picking and choosing them based on loose DNA results I think is unwise. You can't take on all of the different ethnic origins, so which ones do you pick?

If you work with your ancestors, and a lot of witches do, what happens to them? "Sorry folks, I've got a bit bored of you and our ways. I want to hear from some other guys" lol I don't think they would be too happy.

If you know for certain that there is linage in your blood then great but more homework needs to be done besides these commercial tests. 


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#9 skelef0x

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 01:44 AM

Sorry that last part was meant to come across as sarcastic  ;)

 

Looking into any belief, practice or tradition IS fine. But picking and choosing them based on loose DNA results I think is unwise. You can't take on all of the different ethnic origins, so which ones do you pick?

If you work with your ancestors, and a lot of witches do, what happens to them? "Sorry folks, I've got a bit bored of you and our ways. I want to hear from some other guys" lol I don't think they would be too happy.

If you know for certain that there is linage in your blood then great but more homework needs to be done besides these commercial tests. 

 

I agree with you!  DNA tests are notoriously inaccurate, so you'd probably have to do multiple ones and average the results for the most accurate output.  My main desire for it comes from the fact I don't know much about my ancestry--I've got a couple of countries and a family name, but that's about it.  My living family tends to be tight-lipped about our history before 1800.  It would be nice to know where to start, is all.


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#10 GraceWhite

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Posted 23 February 2019 - 12:14 PM

Oh yeah I agree with you on that, I was mostly just saying that while yes technically we're all from Africa its a bit divorced from where and who we are now :P I don't like those bloody tests either, I've heard 23&me is owed by or has some relationship to Google - as if they didn't already know enough about us all

Edited by GraceWhite, 23 February 2019 - 12:15 PM.

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#11 Onyx

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Posted 23 February 2019 - 09:49 PM

As a person who was adopted at birth with no idea of whom or where I came from I found the DNA test very interesting, with quite surprising results.
I really don't have any reason not to believe in the results.

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#12 Khundekling

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Posted 25 February 2019 - 11:59 AM

As a person who was adopted at birth with no idea of whom or where I came from I found the DNA test very interesting, with quite surprising results.
I really don't have any reason not to believe in the results.

 

Was it a commercial test you used Onyx? Like Ancestry or 23andMe? Unfortunately these companies and the methods they use aren't regulated and do not share their data with one another. Therefore their accuracy is questionable. As mentioned I bought a test for my parents as they have been researching their family trees. But I considered it more a novelty than anything else. As said, you would need to have a number of these tests done and compare the results. Also vary the information you provide the company when sending your sample. For example if you are European/Caucasian say you're Indian on the form. There has been reported cases where people have done this and the results have indicated their made up ethnicity, which are clearly incorrect. 


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#13 Onyx

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Posted 26 February 2019 - 08:39 PM

I used the National Geographic test, you would think a reputable company. I did talk to a cousin who also had a lot of Scandinavian as well, however I'm not related by blood to him either so I can't really compare. I'm thinking to get another perspective would be to test one of my Sons.
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#14 AllSaintsDay

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Posted 27 March 2019 - 09:21 PM

Ancestry has always been such an interesting topic to me as a mixed race AND adopted person. My bio-dad is Belizean creole and bio-mom is white, while my adoptive mom is half-white/half-Puebloan and my adoptive dad being Mexican. I wasn't raised in creole culture, and the closest to 'white culture' I got was my (adoptive) mom's dad. My grandpa was born and raised in Amish country in like the 1930's-40's. He had some very interesting ideas about witchcraft, namely that the practice pisses off God and results in severe physical disfigurement. Haha

I was mostly raised in a Mexican Catholic worldview, but, well, my parents aren't very good Catholics. We didn't even go to Mass, we'd just go to Church, pray to God in the pews, then 'parade around' to the various saint shrines where I was told to touch the hands, feet or face of the statues, pray, light candles etc.  As an adult, I look back fondly at those experiences in Church and I have to admit, it really made the idea of polytheism palatable to me. As an adult, I just live out the cultures that I was raised in and they do influence the way I do my spirituality. My Christian practice leans heavily on the cult of saints. Like, I have a sanctuario full of saints, where I basically mimic the practices I learned as a child. 

But in regards to DNA tests, I've never gotten one and probably never will. I've not found a reason to really explore my blood ancestral paths, as I've been pretty satisfied with what I've inherited and the additional diabolical practices I developed on my own. 


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#15 NatureMama

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 03:13 AM

My ancestry is English, Welsh, Scottish and Irish, with a bit of German.  I'm very drawn to Celtic witchcraft and Folk Magic, particularly the practices of Pennsylvania, and the Appalachian mountains which fits both my family genetic and regional heritage and history. But I don't limit myself, if I'm interested in something I follow that interest. :)


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