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I've come back here after a very long spell away (3 years, I couldn't even get back into my old account since it was registered to an old e-mail address which no longer exists) & I thought about an interesting topic...

 

Just how secretive are you as a witch?

 

Personally I am extremely secretive. I take it as far as to write in my boring looking leather journal in invisible ink. That's how important it is to me to keep this part of my self hidden. In words, it is my soul. Maybe one day I will choose to bare it to someone, but that day hasn't come yet. My tools are all disguised as other items or hidden. My familiar looks just like that... a dog. My boat looks ordinary, only if somebody looks closely will they see the small gold pentagram hung near the roof as you enter. It's a mere decoration isn't it? I work alone apart from Lucas (my familiar, a dog with hetechromia eyes who fell into my life) & nobody ever sees my workings.

 

Am I ashamed? Absolutely not. No, I simply do not want others seeing my life lest they use it against me. I do not want others stumbling across my works & copying or questioning it. I cannot be bothered with questions, I know exactly who & what I am.

 

 

I see many witches who bare their souls & I am curious as to how the response is with partners & friends.

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I’ve been tempted to reveal it to a close friend and my younger sister. Of course, they both are spiritual and believe in witchcraft. The most comfortable middle ground for me is to hint at it occasionally but never admit to it or say it explicitly. I wouldn’t let anyone read my grimoire either. I certainly don’t want anyone copying the work I put into learning what I’ve learned so far. Or trying to have an opinion on who I am.

 

My close friend takes the hints and is smart enough to know what they mean but not ask for confirmation of her suspicion. We’ve always had an unspoken level of communication, I know that she knows, and she knows that I know that she knows. My younger sister I actually told, because she’s wanted to practice before as well and has cast a spell with a friend before. They know me well so they are not surprised by this.

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To Know, To Will, To Dare and To keep Silent! This is good advice. I am careful about who knows.

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I am personally very secretive about my craft itself. Most people know I'm a witch, but that's as far as it goes. And they do ask questions or advice sometimes, but I just state the 4th rule of witch club...to keep silent, that ends the conversation usually! My close friends know better than to ask now, but I enjoy being out of the broom closet generally. My mum and partner also practice, so it's not as if there's lots of questions or a need to keep things hidden for me, it's relaxed at home and with family.

 

I keep my belongings and books bound and out of the way, upstairs though. My personal things and writing are absolutely for me only.

 

Interesting to see other people's experiences!

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I keep it secret too, there are far too many haters where I live and I would hate to have prayer groups turn up outside my house in order to “save” my soul...

 

It happens here more than I am comfortable with.

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I keep it secret too, there are far too many haters where I live and I would hate to have prayer groups turn up outside my house in order to “save” my soul...

It happens here more than I am comfortable with.

 

and then there are the dreaded JW's, I find it difficult to get rid of them, I really don't like being rude to them, but they do infringe on my beliefs.

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and then there are the dreaded JW's, I find it difficult to get rid of them, I really don't like being rude to them, but they do infringe on my beliefs.

I had a fun conversation with my local ones shortly after I moved in. We chatted for a good 10 mintues about disaster preparedness and self-sufficiency.

When the main guy's mates dragged him back to the car to and they asked if they could leave literature (think they had figured it was a lost cause by this point - maybe spotted the ram skull and Pan bust in the tree!) I told them 'My gods are not your gods, but I'm happy to help if there's an emergency'

We shook hands, they left and haven't been back. :D

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maybe spotted the ram skull and Pan bust in the tree!) I told them 'My gods are not your gods, but I'm happy to help if there's an emergency'

We shook hands, they left and haven't been back. :D

Ha ha, that’s one way to get rid of them!!

 

I don’t try to ram my beliefs down anyone’s throat so I really don’t like it when others try to “save me”

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I am deeply secretive. I can’t even really explain why other than it just feels so wrong to me to say things out loud. Especially about my spells. I don’t mind discussing the generalities of how to do things but when I create/commit to a spell I never want to talk about what I’m doing or what I’ve done. Sometimes it’s hard when I do one and it works and I get excited and I want to tell someone. But for some reason I feel as though it will somehow negate the spell if I say anything out loud. And I’m pretty secretive about being a witch in general, only very close people know. I can feel that it’s about not wanting others to have some kind of possible power over me with the knowledge. Maybe I’m just not very trusting in general, I dunno, but I feel it in my bones that I need to keep my mouth shut.

 

I just recently discovered that someone who doesn’t particularly like me in a community (not craft related) we are both part of is a proclaimed witch. I don’t know how long she has been but she just recently changed her twitter profile to include that she is a witch and will be tweeting about witchcraft. This made me more wary of her, made me really glad she doesn’t know that I am one and really struck me- it just doesn’t seem like a smart thing to do. I just don’t get it. I am very wary of people who flaunt their “witchyness”. But that’s just me.

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I am fairly secretive about it, to the point where I didn't tell my boyfriend once we decided we'd officially began a relationship! The relationship didn't last anyway, for other reasons. I'm not ashamed, nor am I particularly afraid of what people will think or do. I'm a Witch, and that is how it is. If people don't like it, they can shove it. It's more that it doesn't occur to me because it's such an integral part of me. This is simply indicative of my personality-- I'm secretive about a lot of aspects of my life because I don't see the point of mentioning them. Maybe it's because the secret is from a past experience and this is now, or maybe I just feel it's irrelevant to the situation at hand and shouldn't be used against me. Sounds weird probably, but that's how I am. I know what I am and who I am, and if you don't like it, that's your problem, not mine. 

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Not in the broom closet, but also don't run around talking about it without reason. I am open with those of like minds, who have become my friends first, about what I am, if they should ask or it becomes pertinent in some way. Just as there are signs aplenty in my home for those who are welcome there and have eyes to see them. About the path I follow and actual workings that arise out of that, I mostly keep my own counsel. There may come a time when that changes, but for now, it saves me the aggravation of having my bible-belt neighbors worry over my soul and other witches try to tell me how to witch.

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There are some days that I feel like I'm sneaking around to do what I do.  My closest friends know about me and the struggles I've gone through to get at this point in my life. My initial thoughts were that I was going crazy when I started seeing shadows and things waking me up at night. I even went to a psychiatrist and our parish priest. It got real quick though. Then I knew no one could help me except me. Grant it, this was 25 years ago and I think maybe 4 people know about me. Thank the Goddess that my husband gives me all the support that I need. I think I'll keep things the way they are.

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I am relatively careful, but will share some things. I prefer sharing general information or helpful things, rather than deep personal experience. I might share some experiences that I think might be helpful to others - if I do it is often a good while after they happened. Some open conversation can be good, I feel, as can some sharing some experiences with those who wish to learn. My family do not know because they wouldn't be able to understand the concept fully, and it would upset them. I'm fine with that, but I do see it as being a deep, integral part of me. There are other parts of me that are deep and integral that they cannot understand, so it doesn't feel strange. I do share parts with my husband, though he is not a witch. It's very situation and person dependent for me. I have told people who I know are open to it in order to help them, and I have kept silent when I know trouble would be caused.

 

I think where you live can have an impact on this. I am lucky enough to live in an area of the UK, where many are open minded and have more of a curiosity than a terror or wish to hurt. If I lived somewhere else, I would be even more careful.

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I'd say I'm cautious now but at one time i had been rather public as a trance medium - you can't channel alone. I started with party entertainments that developed into trance-channeled study groups. That was 20 years before the witch-word became relevant to me. I'd relocated & restarted my life a couple times by then. Frankly "it" only came up in daily conversations with Normies who expressed their bias as evil or disbelief & i wasn't interested in challenging anyone's parochial beliefs. I had my own experiences to pursue & that's enough. I can pass along spirit-voice info unobtrusively if a person seems open to it.

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My Hubby got drunk at my Birthday party and announced to all the neighbours that I am a Witch.  I guess I'm out now.  Nobody seems bothered in the least.  Maybe they were all drunk too.

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"I simply do not want others seeing my life lest they use it against me."

I agree with this, and also keeping my things to myself. 

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Some members of my family knows that I practice witchcraft, but they don't know the details. They know I do some healing but that's about it. My most open minded friends knows a bit more of what I do, and they find it very interesting and want me to explain some of the things I do.
But I'm very secretive to the public, that's for sure. I feel like if I were to cast a spell, and everyone knew about it, it could be easily tampered with and I don't want that.

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My boyfriend knows, but nobody else. They know I practice tarot, but that's all. Witches are seen as very new-age & often looked down on. Back in the day we'd be seen as healers or the women of universal science. (sigh) The practicing communities now don't help at times pushing their beliefs on others.

 

I was on Facebook & a pagan witch decided to comment on a post in a group for assistance dogs about feeling insulted by a member using the term "witch-hunt" in a another comment. It wouldn't have been too bad, but she completely blew the comment (which was innocent & used to describe a situation with assistance dog owners being singled out) out of proportion. Apparently some pagan communities are trying to term it as an insult. Myself & a few other witches in the group (who were pagan) all told her to get a grip. The woman who made the witch-hunt comment was clearly mortified & embarrassed by the dramatic responses of this particular pagan witch.

 

I'm not a sensitive person & I bluntly told the other witch she was embarrassing the entire witch community & affecting how others perceive us & the pagan witches agreed with me. It wasn't her response, it was how she responded. Muggles can & do feel threatened by witches, I feel as a witch I have a duty of care towards other folk & I want to keep the peace. I am not pagan, I've investigated that religion though & I understand & respect their beliefs along with other religions. I'm just more of a Dr Who type of person.

 

I might start a coven one day or take on an apprentice when I'm ready, It'd be good to pass knowledge down for the future & I have no interest in having children.

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Hunter I would also prefer it if witches in general weren’t perceived as a bunch of new age ‘rhymes with chickens’. There seems to be a very loud and not so secretive group of people who want to define the craft to the world.

But at the same token if we were still so secretive I wouldn’t have found my way here. I do like though that even with the growing population of practitioners, the traditionals are still receding to the outer fringes keeping quiet for the most part. As usual.

 

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I must say, that in my town at least, and its a kind of Artsy Fartsy town. Witches are not hiding, and if your listen to people there are clues. I bought a skull candle yesterday from a woman who promptly told me that the candles were poured on the New Moon and charged under the Full Moon.

Maybe a mundane person would not catch that, I did. Witches are hiding in plain sight. Maybe she was Wiccan, but for some it is the start of their path.

I liked her because of her openness.

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I have a Wiccan acquaintance as well and I do like her. I suppose i should’ve said that I’d prefer if those who try to define the entire scope of the craft to be what ever their path is (usually harm none and what ever they believe in) were more quiet.

 

I respect people’s individual paths, though I don’t agree with how some loud individuals try to proclaim that all witchcraft is about such and such that THEY practice. That woman sounds nice, I hope you find a good use for that candle.

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Yes, she just was so open and relaxed about what she was doing, I liked her frankness.

The candle is for my daughter in Law, she is a skull lover.

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Candle is for my Daughter in Law, She is a real Skull lover!

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I have struggled with relating to the world in this way, finding the balance of healthy self-expression: not stifling my Truth, not over-exposing. I definitely gave up discussing sacred things with muggles and skeptics. I am an absolute cIosed-book with these types. To share the deepest, most sacred parts of oneself only to be scoffed at is detrimental in so many ways. I only share with people who are interested in practicing or who seem to really want to believe, and even with these, I keep it vague.

 

I open up to other witches, but still I am very mindful of what I say. I never discuss spellwork already done. To do so is to break the spell; I try to literally forget when I've done a working for manifestation. I never discuss interactions with the Fae, even with other witches, because, from what I've experienced, it offends them deeply, but especially so to divulge with skeptics or muggles.

I do discuss theory and technique with my one and only experienced witch friend, and I will do so on this forum, as well.

 

I have one public, revealing post on Facebook, in which I declared my status as a "pan-sexual, anarchist, Marxist Witch, on an agenda to corrupt you and everyone you know - and by "corrupt," I mean "liberate and empower."" I made this post because I am an activist and I want to be controversial to spur conversations, to let my fellows know what I am, and because I made an oath to be more open and True to myself. I do protect myself a bit by using an alias an Facebook.

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I was 8 or 9 when I became interested in stories and history of witches and alchemists.  Around 10 I started playing Dungeons and Dragons with all of my characters being magical.  I began really looking into a magical lifestyle around this time.  I would paint runes on rocks and leave them stashed around the woods near our farm.  I would read everything I could get my hands on.  I was creating protective sigils and my dad let me paint one on the barn, of course he didn't know what it was, he just liked the way it looked.  Always artistic, my subject matter was always of the mystical.  I discovered Wicca from a Lewllyn publication about candle rituals, and I was hooked.  By 16 my hair was down to my waist, my ears were pierced and if I wasn't in the woods, I was in the library studying everything from Norse shamanism to Native American mythology to Hawaiian spiritualism.  By 18 Wicca was tapped out for me and I began examining the craft with a more traditional approach.  I don't really give a shit what people think, my hair has fallen out, and I sleep well at night.

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