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The Witching way of the Hollow hill - Robin Artisson


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#1 Leighqt

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Posted 25 June 2017 - 03:51 PM

I've just started reading this book and am so far enjoying it very much.

Has anyone read it and what are your thoughts?

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#2 Duchess

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Posted 25 June 2017 - 04:05 PM

I've tried to read some of Artisson's stuff, but I had a hard time getting into it. He had some interesting tidbits, but I had trouble reading over the sound of his ego.


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#3 Solanaceae

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Posted 25 June 2017 - 04:13 PM

What Duchess said.

In all fairness it is not just Artisson either, although he is a big one. A good many occult authors put me off for similar reasons.

The ego, dogma or idealism gets in the way of my enjoyment of the content.


Edited by Solanaceae, 25 June 2017 - 04:13 PM.

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#4 Leighqt

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Posted 26 June 2017 - 03:09 PM

I agree Im only on the first chapter , I have highlighted some points that I want to consider in greater detail, but I'm not sure the style of writing is for me.


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Posted 27 June 2017 - 01:13 PM

I have read this one and The Resurrection of the Meadow. I like the information in the books. 


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#6 Turncoat

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Posted 30 June 2017 - 07:18 PM

Having read a lot of Artisson's works and listened to him in interview, I just don't get the big ego sentiment I see often pinned on him..

I've read Witching Way, and go back to it every now and then. Tucked in with his theology and personal views is much of practical use. His techniques for stilling the mind and getting 'out and about' are worthwhile.


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#7 LdyShalott

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Posted 08 July 2017 - 02:45 AM

I find his work to often be the inflated regurgitated works of others, bordering on plagiarism.  He does have a knack for presenting things in a just beyond reach manner.

 

But it is not his publications that are the foundation for the overwhelming distaste for his egotism and total ass-hatery.. 

It is his penchant for spamming, trolling and harassing others online.. 

Most who have been around for any length of time, participating on online groups and forums, have most likely witnessed the circus that is Artisson. 

My response results from first hand, one on one dialogue and exchange over the years. 

He does get a thrill from being "that guy"

 

  Personally , there are many other authors who I find to be more professional, astute and inspiring.. So no need to waste funds on those who do not resonate ...


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Posted 08 July 2017 - 06:35 AM

I have tried to read Artisson's work, because it seems to be in my wheelhouse, but tnen I can't, for the reasons Solanacceae summed up. Thank you, and Duchess as well, now I don't feel so crummy about that. I can usually plow through.


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 06:50 AM

Ah, glad to see I'm not alone.

 

I've been reading 'The witching way of the hollow hill' and finding it hard to like.

 

It's not that he doesn't have some important information to share, he does, I don't even mind the erudite vocabulary.

For me it is two-fold:

1. The man is horrendously verbose - The book could be less than half it's size and still contain the same information. He literally says the same thing over and again in slightly different grandiose ways.

 

2. He writes in 'train of thought'. This leads to some horrific mixed metaphors, pantheons and quite frankly ideas at time (YMMV).

 

I will soldier on and finish it (it has triggered a few new connections between ideas that I didn't have previously, so it isn't worthless.) but i doubt I will read another, and definitely will not buy another.

 

For point of comparison Schulke (say, Veneficium) has oblique points and an almost flowery/poetic writing style. However it doesn't make his work dense and frustrating to parse meaning from in the same way as Artisson's does.

I suspect it is a case of 'suck it and see' for whether people enjoy his writing or not.


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#10 Aurelian

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 09:35 AM

I find his work to often be the inflated regurgitated works of others, bordering on plagiarism.  He does have a knack for presenting things in a just beyond reach manner.

 

But it is not his publications that are the foundation for the overwhelming distaste for his egotism and total ass-hatery.. 

It is his penchant for spamming, trolling and harassing others online.. 

Most who have been around for any length of time, participating on online groups and forums, have most likely witnessed the circus that is Artisson. 

My response results from first hand, one on one dialogue and exchange over the years. 

He does get a thrill from being "that guy"

 

  Personally , there are many other authors who I find to be more professional, astute and inspiring.. So no need to waste funds on those who do not resonate ...

Quoting to reiterate these points.  I could not hope to elucidate what LdyShallot has said more succinctly or eloquently. 

I remember when he was talking a huge mess against a friend of mine.  When he found out who she was, he begged her forgiveness and asked her to not curse him.  Not that she was so petty, because she isn't.

I would bid those who don't know his history to examine it because he has not changed.  But he is charming, and projects a nice veneer of intellectualism . 

I wouldn't have one of his books in my house. 


Edited by Aurelian, 09 February 2019 - 09:37 AM.

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Posted 05 July 2019 - 07:42 PM

With the claim that artisson’s works border on plagiarism, would it be appropriate to list some of those favored alternatives any of you may have? Having read a couple of artissons works and finding him a tad obnonxious myself, I’d really like to see the kinds of authors who do atrissons type of work better than he does.
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