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#1 odalibuc

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Posted 30 March 2016 - 10:47 PM

I have been practicing very spiritual magic for some time, and it has lead me to encounters with malicious entities. The thing is, the only time they are ever malicious towards me is when someone else brought them there for exactly that reason. Even a demon I encountered recently was unsettling, but left me alone when I was at work before I made him leave this world. He didn't even do anything to anyone near him when I was there and keeping an eye on him until the spirits I was working with were ready to help me get him out of there! Even other beings treat me with a weird level of respect - they almost treat me like a higher power than them. Has anyone had a similar experience, or have any insight as to why this might be happening?


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#2 Belle

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Posted 30 March 2016 - 11:32 PM

@Odalibuc, The kind of work I do is similar. I have to find the problems and try and fix them. So a 'demon; might appear to me in some way and I have to deal with them. I can't just punch them in the face and banish them though, because energy can't be destroyed, only transformed. There are many worlds besides the material one and there is a ripple effect.

 

I find the things I need to find, they are sent to me, like assignments. I might have to hunt them down or they come to me. 

 

I have help, just as you do.  But we are needed to do certain things because we are of the material world. I guess that's why. There must be a reason why we have to do this shit. 

 

When a job is done, and the energy is balanced then things are better, until the next assignment. It's not all torture, but a lot of it is.

 

Everybody has a gift or a talent or a job, and everybody has help. This happens to be my job and so I do it. I am a specialist in a certain area so legend has it that the spirits know who I am. I have my own system so I can work with the energy. My system is not the same as yours but there are many similarities. What I do sounds like utter nonsense to most people. Different paths are not any better or worse, or more or less valid. Some people are school teachers and some people are mechanics and some people are mail carriers, then there are magical jobs that contribute to society in whatever way they do it. 

 

I believe that everybody does magic, in a subconscious way, for manipulating energy is something we all do, though we may not be consciously aware of the purpose of our actions. 

 

I also do other things. It's not all about the dark side.  

 

But I am jealous of those who have the pleasant jobs. 


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#3 ArcticWitch

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 12:46 AM

It's my understanding that humans have considerably more dominion over this world when compared to the influence of most Things that we encounter.   Because most people don't realize that, the average person will fear Things considerably less powerful than themselves because they just don't know any better.  Fear is the ultimate weakness in my opinion, and even the lowest-level entities can use that vulnerability to destroy a person.  The more we take on these Things as active practitioners of witchcraft, the less our fear of the unknown and sometimes-Unseen subsides and the stronger we become.  The Things (good and bad alike!) take notice, and we are subsequently treated with increasing levels of respect.

 

In my experience, the real fun comes in when you not only command the nasties to leave the world, but develop a relationship with the Ones sent to target you for juuuuust long enough make them your bitch and send them straight back to the original spiritworker/witch/magician who sent them your way to begin with.  (Although, admittedly, it can be just as delicious to fuck with a metaphysical antagonist's mind by showing them mercy.)


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#4 odalibuc

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 01:23 AM

Very good points. I feel like I'm fairly connected to death at the deepest level of my being, so I think the spirits that come seeking my help can just sense that. Plus, I'm a pretty calm person in general; just yesterday I managed to help a lady coming out of petsmart wrangle her dog that got out of its collar by standing there and cooing at it until it came to sit by me. The thing is, I'd never sent anyone on until the Egypt exhibit thing, so that was quite the crash course in my unpaid occupation. The whole 'demon respect' thing also might have to do with the fact that I ran into Asmodeus and we had a pleasant chat since he was just kind of chilling and I don't care one way or another what a thing happens to be; as long as no one's hurt without fair cause and no one wants to hurt anyone I'm fine with whatever. Then later he introduced me to Santhanus and wants to introduce me to Lucifer and I'm like. What has my life become? I knew this witch stuff would get a bit odd, but I never thought I'd get this deep. I'm actually pretty honored. Have you guys had any similar weird experiences?


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#5 ArcticWitch

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 02:55 AM

The whole 'demon respect' thing also might have to do with the fact that I ran into Asmodeus and we had a pleasant chat since he was just kind of chilling and I don't care one way or another what a thing happens to be; as long as no one's hurt without fair cause and no one wants to hurt anyone I'm fine with whatever. Then later he introduced me to Santhanus and wants to introduce me to Lucifer and I'm like. What has my life become? I knew this witch stuff would get a bit odd, but I never thought I'd get this deep. I'm actually pretty honored. 

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Not sure if I would perceive it as an "honor" so much as an invitation that has resulted from your intentional practice of witchcraft.  You've already acknowledged that you've caught the attention of lower-level entities: why would it be so strange that such activities would also attract the interest of more powerful beings that seek human allies to effect their agenda(s)?


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#6 odalibuc

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 03:11 AM

It isn't so much that they're seeking human "allies", it was a genuine discussion about video games and tv shows. That's the weird thing; we were just geeking out. He was watching me play Undertale one night and we talked for literally hours about it. My spiritual sister actually got kind of jealous.


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Posted 31 March 2016 - 03:35 AM

Do you ever "test" these Things that present themselves to you?  For example, the most recent incident where I was approached by something that identified itself by a name that I recognized, I politely stated that I held the genuine incarnation of the spirit in high regard, and demanded that it prove it was what it claimed to be via an unmistakable and relatively immediate sign.  It didn't like that, tried to intimidate me, then left (permanently) when I pointed out that it was like all the other scallywag spirits: a liar.

 

I find it impossible to believe that the king of demons has the slightest interest in shooting the shit with a human about modern entertainment.  With few exceptions, it's my experience that legit demons who appear without being summoned only want to exploit people who are willing to do business with them, or destroy any human that they're compelled or commanded to end.  


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Posted 31 March 2016 - 06:22 AM

Don't believe everything you hear or experience. They are fucking with you. They will tell you all kinds of bullshit stories and lead you down the garden path. That's the way it's done. It's dangerous because some people get sucked into it and lose touch with reality.  Make sure you have help from your highest guidance at all times and don't do anything without consulting your own ability to ascertain what feels right. 

 

Your guides will play games with you to teach you how to do the work, and as part of the work itself, but know that what you experience is not to be taken literally. Always carry your grain of salt. 


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#9 odalibuc

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 07:12 PM

Thanks for the advice; I'll have to look into this a bit deeper.


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Posted 01 April 2016 - 03:07 AM

How do they present themselves to you? How do you have these full on conversations? So interesting to me!
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Posted 01 April 2016 - 03:50 PM

I have been practicing very spiritual magic for some time, and it has lead me to encounters with malicious entities. The thing is, the only time they are ever malicious towards me is when someone else brought them there for exactly that reason. Even a demon I encountered recently was unsettling, but left me alone when I was at work before I made him leave this world. He didn't even do anything to anyone near him when I was there and keeping an eye on him until the spirits I was working with were ready to help me get him out of there! Even other beings treat me with a weird level of respect - they almost treat me like a higher power than them. Has anyone had a similar experience, or have any insight as to why this might be happening?

I would be kind of nervous about this, just because I was lead along by a demon for so long that my mistrust threshold is quite high.

 

My biggest red flag for spiritual work is, "this being treats me like the Chosen One." I believe this is a spiritual ploy that encourages the practitioner to let their guard down and be more receptive to the lies they are told. For example, it seems that you have a great deal of control, so you are willing to allow more interactions - under the guise that you have control over them. And when the final door is opened, they pounce. 

 

I don't want to disparage your experiences. I also feel that if Asmodeus appeared to me, I would need some very compelling evidence to believe it was him. Far beyond a matching image and a "Hey, I'm King of Hell." 


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#12 odalibuc

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Posted 01 April 2016 - 07:23 PM

The demon that left me alone gave off a clear sense of "you're bad news and maybe if I don't talk to you I won't get noticed" - like I was an apex predator. That's what I mean by respect. Asmodeus on the other hand felt Very Different. It was almost overwhelming to be in the same area as him, even when he didn't want anything in particular. Also, he is widely associated with lust; I am entirely asexual and have never felt lust for anything before in my life, but I felt it when he was there. He also mentioned his brothers, and called himself a Prince of Hell instead of its king. Apparently demons can get super bored without resorting to shenanigans.

 

As for how I have these conversations, I mainly use what I feel to interact with things, and let their words come to me through my spiritual sister. I can read intent and meaning very clearly, but to get a better read on the wording they are using, my spiritual sister acts like an interpreter. I hear her in my mind like my thoughts, but she sounds different than me. I have to speak out loud to be heard, but I can use my connection with her to get my meaning across and she relays it back. I've seen and heard enough of demons and other beings doing terrible things to the people that open up to them, so I tend to keep myself pretty closed off when I interact with them.


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Posted 01 April 2016 - 08:38 PM

The demon that left me alone gave off a clear sense of "you're bad news and maybe if I don't talk to you I won't get noticed" - like I was an apex predator. That's what I mean by respect. 

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Alternate interpretation: it acts like a powerless sycophant to inspire the target to feel superior and let their guard down.  A bit similar to the anglerfish that baits its prey with a tiny appendage that is just out of view of its enormous, teeth-filled mouth.  As a member previously mentioned, ego games are one of the most efficient and fast ways for a demon to get "in".

 

Everyone has their own unique experiences, and in my own past, I've never been verbally complimented by a demon or similar entity.  Instead, it's my experience that they express respect via action, not communication via words or strong impressions.  But I'm still fairly new at this stuff, so who knows if my perspective will be changed by new experiences.  *shrug*


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Posted 02 April 2016 - 12:13 AM

Mephistopheles told me to tell you to listen to what Wexler said. 

 

You think I'm joking, but I'm not. That was the message. 


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Posted 02 April 2016 - 02:05 AM

Thanks for your help everyone. I'm going to do a full cleansing around me, my house, my workplace, all my stuff, my family and friends, and anything else I can think of to make sure nothing bad's getting attached to me and to get rid of anything that might already have.

 

This is why I need to talk to people about this stuff -_-u; going on my own intuition and gut feelings isn't 100% guaranteed to go well.


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Posted 02 April 2016 - 02:36 AM

Yay!!!!

 

I was seriously worried about you. I have a lot of experience in this arena and I want you to be safe and sane. You can trust your 'spirit sister'...maybe you can work together to come up with a plan that will keep you protected. She is your guidance, and she knows more about how things work. She keeps you safe, but only if you listen...

 

Which you did!  


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