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#61 FrozenThunderbolt

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 04:08 AM

And Frozen thanks for the Erowid link - what a great site!

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 07:40 PM

Thanks guys for the tips. Sol great idea about tincture and ointment - have you a rough recipe for an ointment? It's the dosage / ratios really I'm interested in as have never used it.

Boy do I wish I had paid more attention in chemistry class now :D

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Posted 28 October 2017 - 02:16 PM

So after months of 'shit or get off the pot' - I've finally ordered some mugwort :) I'll try it as tea, then tincture and if all else fails I'll have a smoke of it :)


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Posted 28 October 2017 - 03:49 PM

So after months of 'shit or get off the pot' - I've finally ordered some mugwort :) I'll try it as tea, then tincture and if all else fails I'll have a smoke of it :)

great!

let us know what you think after using it those few different ways would ya?

 

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Posted 30 October 2017 - 10:13 PM

Will do :) It arrived today. Going to make a very weak tea tonight just to get a taste for it. Tomorrow I might make a herb bag for under my pillow but am a bit lairy of doing too much with it over the next few days. Call it the Samhain squeamies! ;)


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Posted 31 October 2017 - 12:06 AM

Thanks guys for the tips. Sol great idea about tincture and ointment - have you a rough recipe for an ointment? It's the dosage / ratios really I'm interested in as have never used it.

Boy do I wish I had paid more attention in chemistry class now :D

 

 

 

 

Ya, see I can't really give you dosages and ratios as there is no way to do that safely and it is not recommended. Basically, you need to cautiously experiment until you find what works for you. The dose that works for you will not necessarily work for me and would be too much for another, you know what I mean?

 

Mugwort is a fairly safe and gentle plant, so careful experimentation should be fine. One thing to be aware of though, thujone ( an active chemical compound found in wormwood and mugwort)  will build up in your system. It is not like cannabis, and should not be used on a frequent basis. Make it a special occasion once a month or something.

 

Basic recipe for ointment;

-dry plant material; 

you will need to infuse the plant material in a carrier oil. (sweet almond, olive, coconut or whatever oil you prefer)

Either place the plant material in oil and leave it in there for a few weeks or to speed it up you could heat it gently for an hour or so, be sure not to let it boil or overheat though.

-strain the plant material from the oil, cheesecloth works well for this.

-heat the oil gently once again and add some beeswax until it is the consistency you want.


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Posted 31 October 2017 - 12:21 AM

Great, thanks for that!

I'm confused about the toxicity thing as everything on here is quite cautious but other sites seem to glibly recommend drinking the tea two or three times a day. Some say only for 6 days, others don't seem to set a limit at all.

Would you say least to most toxic is: ointment, tea, tincture, incense, direct smoking?

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Posted 31 October 2017 - 12:36 AM

When mixed with alcohol, as in an alcohol-based tincture, the liver toxicity is increased. Aside from that, it would have to do with how much you use.

If you are not directly inhaling the incense, that would be less toxic. Sleeping with it under your pillow is less toxic still.

 

I will add a note here for anyone reading this, Do not use if pregnant, trying to get pregnant or breastfeeding. 

Mugwort and wormwood are known abortifacients.  


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Posted 31 October 2017 - 05:18 PM

Ya, see I can't really give you dosages and ratios as there is no way to do that safely and it is not recommended. Basically, you need to cautiously experiment until you find what works for you. The dose that works for you will not necessarily work for me and would be too much for another, you know what I mean?

Mugwort is a fairly safe and gentle plant, so careful experimentation should be fine. One thing to be aware of though, thujone ( an active chemical compound found in wormwood and mugwort) will build up in your system. It is not like cannabis, and should not be used on a frequent basis. Make it a special occasion once a month or something.

Basic recipe for ointment;
-dry plant material;
you will need to infuse the plant material in a carrier oil. (sweet almond, olive, coconut or whatever oil you prefer)
Either place the plant material in oil and leave it in there for a few weeks or to speed it up you could heat it gently for an hour or so, be sure not to let it boil or overheat though.
-strain the plant material from the oil, cheesecloth works well for this.
-heat the oil gently once again and add some beeswax until it is the consistency you want.



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Posted 01 November 2017 - 01:44 PM

Well had some tea. Only had half a mug but it made me quite tranquil and spacey. I planned to lie down and doze but my tongue and throat got a bit prickly and I was concerned I might be allergic! Wearing off now but I'm still sleepy and have a mild headache. Might go make a drum journey and see if there's any difference.
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Posted 20 November 2017 - 02:02 AM

For those checking out mugwort for the first time, or if you are like me and use herbs slowly: mugwort is often used as a seasoning, you can purchase in small amounts in many health food stores and most asian super markets. 

I find that tea is great for dreaming, and smoking is good for trance work. I don't know why, I just know that's how I've worked with her previously and it seems to be good that way.

Great thread!


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Posted 26 March 2018 - 07:53 PM

Trying mugwort tea again. It gives me a really dry feeling in my throat and mouth. Anyone else get this? Im not sure if I get a mild allergic reaction to it. No big effect either just mildly spacy and chilled.

I think I'm pretty sensitive to lots of substances including this one :( Even caffeine (gives me palpitations) and especially morphine (prescribed after surgery)- makes me vomit like crazy. Fine with cannabis and alcohol.

And getting the mild headache now too. Urgh. This lady doesn't like me!

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Posted 26 March 2018 - 08:18 PM

Ok... so the secret seems to be to drink it slowly. Feeling pretty chilled now like everything is a little softer. Scratchy throat is irritating though.
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Posted 26 March 2018 - 08:44 PM

I never get a scratchy throat, ya I would be careful then in case you are allergic.

The effect is usually quite mild, to the extent that some people don't even notice one, but if you use just before bed, when doing trancework, meditation or scrying you will likely see the difference it makes. Dreams are her major thing.

The headaches are very common with mugwort use though unfortunately. I find that is less when I use an ointment or oil.

Just don't put it on your temples or forehead.


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Posted 26 March 2018 - 09:02 PM

Yeah I might try the mugwort pillow and see what happens :) no allergy risk at least.
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Posted 26 July 2018 - 03:03 PM

I just got seeds and was wondering if I should seed them and keep the seedlings indoors till spring or plant the seed in fall and wait? Any advice to the gardeners here. 


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Posted 28 July 2018 - 05:19 AM

Holdasown, I'm not sure what your weather is like, but I've had good luck with it indoors all winter. Then I move it out in spring. Its been pretty hardy and survived even when other hardy plants failed around it. I'm hoping I finely have a patch into make the winters out side this year. With our winters here it seems it needs to be well established before things get rough. At least that's how is been for me.

 

You know I just look at your location on your profile. I'd bet if you start some now outdoors it

could likely come back for you in spring. If your in doubt having a safety in a pot in the house never hurts, but their pretty easy going.


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Posted 01 August 2018 - 03:02 PM

Holdasown, I'm not sure what your weather is like, but I've had good luck with it indoors all winter. Then I move it out in spring. Its been pretty hardy and survived even when other hardy plants failed around it. I'm hoping I finely have a patch into make the winters out side this year. With our winters here it seems it needs to be well established before things get rough. At least that's how is been for me.

 

You know I just look at your location on your profile. I'd bet if you start some now outdoors it

could likely come back for you in spring. If your in doubt having a safety in a pot in the house never hurts, but their pretty easy going.

 

 

I live in WV and wondered if I put the seed in late fall if they would live to spring underground but maybe the planters would be better and then plant the seedlings in Spring.  


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Posted 01 August 2018 - 06:46 PM

Mugwort is a pretty tolerant plant, once it's established. If you plant it in late fall, it's likely you'll freeze/kill the seeds. I'd start them indoors, then move them outdoors after the threat of frost has passed. That would give them an entire growing season to get established wherever you decide their permanent home is going to be before winter hits again. Or wait until the threat of frost has passed & plant them outdoors.

 

We're not as cold as you but we do get below freezing with snow staying for 4-5 days when it hits hard. Mine looks soooo sad in the winter months but perks right back up in spring. I planted them in the garden in the spring about 6 years ago.


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Posted 01 August 2018 - 08:07 PM

Thank you Mountain Witch. That be the safe bet and shes the expert. I'd bow to her wisdom.

 

I'm at the other end of these hills, a good ways north. Mine disappears after the first week or so of snow and I don't see it till spring. However, you go about it if your winters stay rough or your in one of your wonderful valleys the cold lays in. Then I'd look for a tolerably dry spot that gets good sun. That's what mine seems to like to make happily through the year.


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