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I just found this post, and I couldn't stop reading it. I don't have much to add that wasn't already said, so I will just give a resource that you can look into further if you're interested. I have an active ancestral veneration practice, which I have been doing for the past 4 years. I recently had a terrible experience with it, and I determined to take a break, regroup, and start over, but that's another story. In order to better educate myself (beyond the material I have been given), I found a wonderful book called "Communing with the Spirits" by Martin Coleman. He defines the difference between a medium and a necromancer. He also gives a basic and tested pathway towards developing your skills in necromancy. I highly recommend the book to anyone considering starting a practice like this. It has been incredibly useful to me in my own journey.

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I'd like to hear about your not so great experience, if your'e willing to share? Also, How does Coleman define between a medium and a necromancer...perhaps you could quote him?

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"In trance mediumship, the medium enters a semi-hypnotic state and allows a spirit to speak through them. This is usually the kind of mediumship which is practiced in the Spiritualist Churches. THis is not a form of necromancy because the true spiritualist medium has no control over what is happening to them. The medium is only the passive vehicle which the spirit uses to give voice to its own words. Being a medium is a good life experience for certain people, and for other people it is good for them at certain times. However, mediumship is not uniformly beneficial for everyone. It is never a practice which the average person should attempt from curiosity alone. In some cases passing a spirit as a medium can be physically as well as psychically damaging to the person attempting to do so."

 

This is not necromancy, as they are not getting specific information from known spirits.

 

Necromancers tend to be dominating people, mediums are very passive. Big difference.

 

That's the quote from the book, page 23.

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True too! Mediums cannot control who is working within them, whereas necromancers maintain strict control over who is and is not allowed in their space.

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Good call 2spiritwitch! Coleman’s book is exceptional. I always point people to it who have a warped understanding of necromancy as some sort of LHP dark fantasy. Most get turned off by the amount of hard work and dedication it takes.

 

This book has practical techniques that can be applied to any form of spirit work, not just the dead. The basics are all laid out very clear from first developing a relationship with the ancestors to always being properly protected once you start inviting spirits into your life.

 

I also highly recommend this book.

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AM....

 

"In trance mediumship, the medium enters a semi-hypnotic state and allows a spirit to speak through them. This is usually the kind of mediumship which is practiced in the Spiritualist Churches. THis is not a form of necromancy because the true spiritualist medium has no control over what is happening to them. The medium is only the passive vehicle which the spirit uses to give voice to its own words. Being a medium is a good life experience for certain people, and for other people it is good for them at certain times. However, mediumship is not uniformly beneficial for everyone. It is never a practice which the average person should attempt from curiosity alone. In some cases passing a spirit as a medium can be physically as well as psychically damaging to the person attempting to do so."

 

This is not necromancy, as they are not getting specific information from known spirits.

 

Necromancers tend to be dominating people, mediums are very passive. Big difference.

 

That's the quote from the book, page 23.

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Thanks. My experience differs from what the book says. I was at a open circle at a Spiritualist Church about a month ago, and no one went into deep unconscious trance. I think the majority of mediums today go into a light trance, as it is too draining and dangerous to go into deep trance. The mediums I know are in full control, and they can reject any unwanted Spirit, but I think there is more difficulty in calling and making appear, a specific Spirit, if the Spirit does not want to...in fact the medium would not want to make appear, any spirit that does not want to.

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That could be. The author wrote this book 17 years ago, his opinion may have changed. I agree though that it is too dangerous to go into deep trance unless you have others there to take care of you. There are a few here who can do it, I know that. But uncontrolled mediumship...any spirit in the area can jump into you, and THAT is incredibly dangerous.

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Thank you for the book recomendation 2 spirit. I will have to give that a read.

 

So here is an update on everything since making this post:

 

First off I decided to start with an ancestor of mine. My grandfather. We were very close when I was a kid. He has actually been known to be around in spirit form from time to time. . My brother when he was young saw him. And a psychic told me I had a relative that was watching over me. etc etc. I've even smelled his tobacco scent and felt his presence.

 

So I made a small alter/shirne for him where I give small offerings of water, tobacco, and pecans. The first time I did it I had a mental image of him putting his hands on my shoulders in a loving/approving way. It gave me chills. But in a good way.

 

So far I have only been giving offerings once a week. I try to communicate with him via meditation and dreaming but it hasn't come so easily.

 

However when I was building his alter I was putting random stuff that I sort of relate back to him. Feeling silly I was like " I guess this will work ?? hahaha" and I got a vision of him laughing too. It felt just like we were laughing together.

 

 

I picked up this book http://www.amazon.com/Encyclopedia-Spirits-Ultimate-Fairies-Goddesses/dp/0061350249

 

It is pretty broad but it got me thinking a lot and it answered a bunch of questions I haven't even really thought to ask. I highly recommend it for beginners if you want basic information about spirits.

 

 

 

Since doing research on working with spirits I had a week or so that I was sleeping super piss poor. I just felt like something was watching me and fucking with me. I was hearing multiple faint voices while trying to fall asleep. My car was locking and unlocking by itself for a while and my bathroom light would flicker etc etc.

I found out later that it isn't recommended sleeping with a mirror in your room. I took it out and smudged the shit out of my house, laid down some ground rules and slept better ever since.

 

I've found that I'm now more aware of whats around me. Everything is so subtle and on the periphery of my vision.

 

I've done some work recently trying to find an astral familiar. I've had a few animal forms present themselves to me via meditation/dreams. A polar bear and a falcon the first time. They were actually hanging out together it seemed like when they came to me. And the second time a black Ibis. I feel most drawn to the polar bear for some reason. But I haven't settled on any of them yet. I would like to have more interactions before I agree to anything. I still don't know much about astral familiars so I am trying to be cautious.

 

So far I've already learned a ton. I'm still excited about pursuing this route. However, I am still open to any suggestions , advice, explanations, or personal experiences. You guys have helped out a ton already. Forever grateful.

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Since doing research on working with spirits I had a week or so that I was sleeping super piss poor. I just felt like something was watching me and fucking with me. I was hearing multiple faint voices while trying to fall asleep. My car was locking and unlocking by itself for a while and my bathroom light would flicker etc etc.

 

So far I've already learned a ton. I'm still excited about pursuing this route. However, I am still open to any suggestions , advice, explanations, or personal experiences. You guys have helped out a ton already. Forever grateful.

Oooooo-eeeee girly, I haven't read that book, but if this is the results that you've been having I'd be a little weary of following that author's advice. She's written a bunch of general books, and I'm thinking they're maybe a little too general.

 

It sounds like you're having great progress insofar as the ancestor work.

 

I'm not thinking that you really need an astral familiar...I'm not familiar with this practice really....why astral though?

 

I'm thinking you may want to draw a guardian spirit to you, rather than pursuing other work at the moment.

 

I don't know if anyone else would agree with me, but those are my thoughts.

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As for that book it is really just an encyclopedia of sorts . I haven't exactly taken any advice from it, as it was sort of more of a broad overview of what I'm getting into than a "How-to"

 

I'm not sure why astral really. I've had a few people recommend it and it seems like the right move. However I am taking my sweet ass time with that. Not really in a rush, as I don't want to get overwhelmed.

A guardian spirit sounds like a good bet too though. Is there any type of spirit that would be especially good for that?

 

Thank you for the advice as always Aurelian.

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There are so many ideas I'd like to explore here, so this will be a long post.

 

The insights put forth are based upon my personal experiences having been born a certain way. I don't read books and have yet to 'study' (as I'd prefer to become student of a necromancer whose talent, experience and insight surpasses my own.) I have strong opinions that I will try to hold back, so if anything offends, I apologize in advance. Language leaves much to be desired when it comes to the business of that which is largely unspoken.

The Power of Scent:

 

Many times one can smell the presences of a beloved family member who has crossed. Scent is one of the many ways spirits comminucate with us. More often than not, scent is calming, comforting, and unobtrusive. It's a very sublte way of saying Hello.

 

Scent triggers memories that transport us back in time, literally. All those feelings associated with memory come rushing back. This type of energy is very powerful stuff. It's viseral, primal, ancient. It creates its own signature, if you will.

 

In this line of thinking, using scent to communicate first and/or communicate back makes sense...lol.

 

In my experience, if a spirit liked a certain perfume, cologne, food, drink, flower while alive, this can be a very inticing to them. You are tapping into the specific memories of thier lives that gave them great (olfactory) pleasure. Through this, they can enjoy thier 'life' again. It's a way of drawing them near.

 

Open up his/hers favorite cologne. Have at it. Don't be stingy.

 

Taking this idea one step further, using a scent of shared memory is also an option to open up and enhance communication.

 

Say your grandfather used to take you the circus each summer and bought you heaping globs cottoncandy, you could use cottoncandy to envoke all those memories of the happy times you both shared. Imagine both of you experiencing these shared memories at the same time, in real time, as you lay cottoncandy on your alter - this creates an energy -- again, it's very powerful stuff.

 

Also, stronger the scent, the more effective it seems to be. It's no accident that tabacco and whisky are so widely used. But, imo, if your loved one didn't drink or smoke, it's a moot point. Luckily, there are so many other strong scents to choose from. So, if my departed (who is really still here -- these terms are annoying) loved eating sunflower seeds, potato chips and sardines, as sucky as sardines are -- it's probably better choice. After all, this is about them, not us.

 

A note about water: In my experience, water has a draining effect. No pun intended. Unless you want spirit steer clear, I would not use water to entice.

 

The better you know her/him the easier it is to use scent as means of communication.

 

Be prepared to be answered back by spirit with a scent that no one else in the room can smell, (take a swamp or burning leaves for expample) that envokes a memory -- explore it. You can have an entire relationship based on scent alone by swapping out memories and experiences that hold wisdom and knoweldge, even warnings. You may be made aware of some very interesting, shocking, or sad facts.

 

I'd like to add, imho, to bear in mind several things:

Not all spirits want to talk or be seen.

Spirits who care for you don't want to frighten or startle you (by showing themselves, touching you, manipulating eletronics, etc...)

Not all spirits want to be involved with you, this includes ancestors.

Some really want to be left alone.

Some are shy.

Some aren't ready.

Some are needy.

Some are controlling.

Some absolutely resent being called upon like a trained animal.

Some want to be free and your calling on them is pulling them back to place they no longer wish to be. *This is especailly true if someone is in the process of transitioning, or recently has. The loving thing to do, imo, is the let them go with all the love and compassion you can muster, dispite your own feelings of loss / selfish reasons.

New spirits often need time to adjust. They have themseves to worry about. You can help them by respecting this and just letting them go. Allow them to do what THEY need to do.

You can offer them an invitation to return to you, as THEY see fit. Accept the possibility they may decline. It's their right.

All choices made by spirit are respectable. My best advice to the new practioner is simple: Demand nothing. Honor everything.

 

So if the new necromancer isn't 'seeing' spirt, there's probably good reasons for this. It's not a failing by any means. It doesn't make you any less able or effective.

 

There are a myriad of ways we can better ourselves at receiving messages from 'beyond'.

 

Being more aware, becoming more senstive to those possibilities is part of the never-ending learning process. I think anyone can connect with 'otherside' if they so desire, but it's not like what you see on TV, and it's not always pleasant. (Not everyone ought to either.)

 

Even the most experienced necromancers get thier asses kicked from time to time.

 

Dabblers are at trememdous risk of experiencing long-term, serious affects and effects.

 

UNSEEN is always a favor, a grace - that once taken away cannot be taken back.

 

So, again, beware what one strives for. Choose carefully.

 

This work is not for the faint of heart.

 

Being able to connect with the 'otherside' does not make one a greater /lesser witch. This is a specific path and it's wise to treat is a such. You are only one breath away from death yourself. Remember this. Ego has no place here. If anything, ego will cause some unpleasant results.

 

Also, it's important for practioners to know the difference between ancestor veneration and working with ancestors. Some seem to wrongly confuse the two.

 

Also, calling to spirit, who answers the call is a crapshoot. This is other thing that happens more often than not -- being prepared BEFORE hand is invaluable to the new practioner.

Learn some banishing methodolgy first. Practice them until you are fluid. Have certain items on hand, keep them easily accessible. Yes, this shit always happens when you aren't expecting it. This helps to elevate the confusion and fear. More about fear below.

 

 

Guardian Spirits: In my experience, you have them already. You've had them all along.

 

This is not to say you cannot attract more to you, but connecting with those who are already present seems a logical, safer way to start.

 

A simple exercise is to think back on all those times something 'told' you, intervened on your behalf, saved your butt. Try to reconnect with the those pivital moments. Write them down. Really stay with those instances. Explore them extensively. There should be a vibration ( for lack of a better word) to all of them. Some pivital moments will be/feel like others and a pattern could emerge. Other moments will stand alone. That's OK. Age can play a part, too. Some vibrations will be consistent for a time, then stop. YMWV.

 

As always, it's important acknowledge the wisdom and care your guides provide. Thank them.

 

You could respectfully request that they come now forth in a way that YOU are now able to understand their presence.

 

Imo, if you do this, keep your antenne up. Don't ignore the whisperings or pick and choose when you tap into that frequency. It's only respectful to stay committed to getting to know them. One would not invite guests to dinner and then slam the door in the faces when they arrive. This is very much the same idea.

 

After a while, their individually will begin show and you should be able to discern who's who. Some may be very fierce, or 'hideous' in form, so be prepared to be brave and accepting. Easier said than done, but there ought to be a commitment to react honorably. How would you feel if someone recoiled at the sight/sound/smell of you? Especially after you've been of great service to them. This is one way to lose guides or have them turn against you.

 

There's a certain FEARLESSNESS that is fundamental to this practice.

 

This is not to say that feeling 'afraid' isn't par- for- the-course, but the vibration of fear is both a destructive and creative force.

 

The person who feels fear, who is fearfull, or gives into fear is in the submissive role and is in a potentially dangerous position. At very least, it's the least desirable place to be. This is why many people shy away from this practice (very smart, BTW) or they begin the practice and quickly abandon the pursuit because it gets too much, too quickly. Please know that this can have long lasting affects and effects on those who send out these invitations. I've seen many ignore the 'warnings' and experience some pretty 'interesting' (another word for distrubing) results. Dabblers learn the hard way.

 

Fear creates another breed of enitity that isn't so easily addressed.

 

Also, learn about spirit attachment and possession. Always protect yourself. But even protection can be tricky. Silly as this sounds, be sure not to trap anything less-than-desirable within your shield. Don't laugh, it happens.

 

Edited to add: Spirit is all around us, all the time.

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Nice post. I agree with most of it, except for guardian spirits, and water. I question that everyone has a guardian spirit...I mean look at those who are tortured, murdered by some psycho, child molestation...and the list goes on and on, no guardian spirit there for them. About water, I have always understood it to be a conduit for spirit, not a blockage, and most ancestral and other altars have a bowl of water on them. My understanding is not to have salt on the altar.

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Thanks AM. I appreciate that.

 

I realize that water is frequently used with ancestor veneration, which, most of us know, is different than spirit communication.

 

I needs me no altars to commune with the "unseen"...(says one of my attending spirits in a very amusing voice) but I needs me a bath after fucking Miss Racine. ( yeah, welcome to my world)

 

Here's a simple question: Which would you rather have: An invite containing your most favorite, fragrant foods or a bowl of water? I'm working with human spirits over here, not goldfish and guppies.... Lol

 

Even when salt is present (sardines, for example) the strength of the aroma and the pleasant memories evoked by the scent is the influential incentive to drawing spirit near, iif one cannot do so otherwise.

 

I can only speak to my personal experience but water (time and time again) slows sprit down.... Or worse, pushes away... Repels.

 

If I were budding necromancer whose attempts to make contact yields disappointing a result, I'd simply experiment by removing water and substitute a more spirit personalized and aromatic substance in its place. One has little to lose. YMWV.

 

 

 

Hmmmmm... Are you saying that anyone who meets with tragedy is void of a guardian? Interesting.

 

What is your idea of a guardian? Is it an entity one must conjure and maintain to have? Do you liken it to a "fetch"? Do you think that guardians are earned ? If so, who are the lucky few ? How do guardians choose their ward? Just wondering... I know there are other threads dedicated to guides alone... Would be happy to continue this discussion of there, if you're so inclined.

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I cant't recall which thread this was mentioned in, but I have a round used in the Civil War, and I don't consider it haunted. Apparently it killed someone, and I can contact that spirit but he's not at all bitter or nasty. Lovely piece of necro equipment.

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Thanks AM. I appreciate that.

 

I realize that water is frequently used with ancestor veneration, which, most of us know, is different than spirit communication.

 

I needs me no altars to commune with the "unseen"...(says one of my attending spirits in a very amusing voice) but I needs me a bath after fucking Miss Racine. ( yeah, welcome to my world)

 

Here's a simple question: Which would you rather have: An invite containing your most favorite, fragrant foods or a bowl of water? I'm working with human spirits over here, not goldfish and guppies.... Lol

 

Even when salt is present (sardines, for example) the strength of the aroma and the pleasant memories evoked by the scent is the influential incentive to drawing spirit near, iif one cannot do so otherwise.

 

I can only speak to my personal experience but water (time and time again) slows sprit down.... Or worse, pushes away... Repels.

 

If I were budding necromancer whose attempts to make contact yields disappointing a result, I'd simply experiment by removing water and substitute a more spirit personalized and aromatic substance in its place. One has little to lose. YMWV.

 

 

 

Hmmmmm... Are you saying that anyone who meets with tragedy is void of a guardian? Interesting.

 

What is your idea of a guardian? Is it an entity one must conjure and maintain to have? Do you liken it to a "fetch"? Do you think that guardians are earned ? If so, who are the lucky few ? How do guardians choose their ward? Just wondering... I know there are other threads dedicated to guides alone... Would be happy to continue this discussion of there, if you're so inclined.

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As you say, water is used in ancestor veneration, but I am referring to Spirit invites, ancestor or not...just Spirit invite, and I don't think water is a hindrance to that. The water thing reminds me of the old superstition that vampires can't cross running water. But, hey, each to their own experiences. I have found that two candles side by side and lighted form a great doorway for communication. Most are of the opinion that water is highly attractive to Spirits. I believe Spirits will communicate, water or no, fragrance or no, if they want to, and in many, but not all cases if you want the communication, but then there are those that just have to bug you, lol. Regarding fragrance though, would you not have had to know the person in life for you to know what fragrance they like, which kind of goes back to ancestors, and or friends. What about Spirits you did not know in life...how would you know what fragrance they like? What if you choose one they hate, then that would drive them away. However, offering something they like (hopefully), or having something of theirs, I think is a good link to open up communication with them.

 

You mentioned Spirit guardians, guides, so it opened up the conversation to that. My comment was an observation, and from that, my belief that not all people have them, and yes I think it may only be a chosen few...not talking about a fetch. How is a person selected, I don't know. Guardian, to me, is one who guards and protects you, to use your words, all those times something 'told' you, intervened on your behalf, saved your butt

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I always thought the glass of water was a Hoodoo thing. That's pretty much the only context I've seen it used in. You guys know I don't do Hoodoo.

 

I tried the glass of water - it went over like a lead balloon. I've had salt on it and it really didn't seem to interrupt much but it's happier without it. My male ancestors love whiskey. The women have a thing for coffee and they all have a thing for gum drops and sweets. Go figure.

 

I've been streamlining. Creating small ritual and ceremony thoughout my daily life. It's quite fulfilling.

 

I just had to repot my bamboo. I put one on the ancestral shrine/alter. It's in a tall clear glass cylinder type vase with different layers of stones and pretties. It's a tall glass of water with a beautiful life that thrives in shadow. It seems quite happy in it's new home.

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I cant't recall which thread this was mentioned in, but I have a round used in the Civil War, and I don't consider it haunted. Apparently it killed someone, and I can contact that spirit but he's not at all bitter or nasty. Lovely piece of necro equipment.

 

do you have the actual lead ball or the casing?

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I don't think it is just a Hoodoo custom. One can find it in the old ways, such as wells, underground springs, etc. where it was believed that spirits were. Christians use water a lot...perhaps that is where Hoodoo got it from. Isn't whisky a Hoodoo custom, or is it Voodoo, maybe both?

 

How do you find the bamboo, since it is in water...at least all the ones I have seen, affects your communication with Spirit, since you tried water which did not go over well?

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But wells and springs are Living Water. It's very different than what comes out of the tap.

 

This has more to do with my current understanding of the different realms, tree of life, upper/physical/under world, etc. The idea of growing roots and aerial beauty from muck and mire. What could drown is life sustaining.

 

And it's it's own perpetual energy source.

 

Distilled spirits is a Russian thing, too. My Godfather preferred whiskey to vodka so I keep a bottle in the cabinet for him. My matriarchal recent ancestors were very into plants so it's fitting for a personalized shrine/alter. I haven't really come across much pertaining to living items on shrines or alters for the Dead. Have any of you guys?

 

I put up pics on my craft fb page if you'd like to see it. RoseRed Damask.

 

I'm hoping it does well in it's new location. It's a little brighter than where it was.

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Eh, all water is living imo (well, most any way), water flows through pipes, reservoirs, etc. Plants do fine with it :smile:

 

Re: you bamboo, not sure if you are aware of this, but they do not do well in direct or bright sunlight...the leaves will start to dry out a lot.

 

Yes, I've heard of and seen plants on ancestor/spirit altars. It's a nice touch. Yours looks really nice. Good luck with it!

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do you have the actual lead ball or the casing?

 

I have the (very deformed) lead ball. I'll post a pic when I find my misplaced camera, if you like. I know some people can read such things.

 

As for water, it isn't just used in hoodoo. Look up something called a boveda. It's used in multiple traditions. Usually one large glass for 'spirit' or 'the creator' and one glass for each ancestor.

 

Also, in Vodou, ancestral altars are placed on the ground, as the spirits are believed to travel through the ground water. It's also traditional in the craft to call spirits at rivers and such...remember all those sacrifices done to placate the nature spirits?

 

Also, to feed spirits, whiskey or rum or tequila or whatever is culturally relevant are an excellent offering, and tobacco, even if they didn't smoke. Just not too much liquor, not more than a few tablespoons, or at most a shot glass...they can act up, just like we embodied folk!

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As you say, water is used in ancestor veneration, but I am referring to Spirit invites, ancestor or not...just Spirit invite, and I don't think water is a hindrance to that. The water thing reminds me of the old superstition that vampires can't cross running water

. Never heard of that.

 

But, hey, each to their own experiences. Yup. I've learned so much from others this way.

 

I have found that two candles side by side and lighted form a great doorway for communication. Great suggestion for the OP.

 

Most are of the opinion that water is highly attractive to Spirits. I had a very wise professor who once said, "If 10 minds agree - 9 are unnecessary."

 

This is not to say that using water to attract spirit isn't widely used or accepted or viable practice. I KNOW this...lol. But there's no proof that using water is 100% effective either. Offering another perspective based on hands-on experience, even if it's not 'the norm', doesn't decrease its value. This is very simple, really. If someone isn't getting a result, or the result they hoped for, it's always nice to have an alternative. Water is also often used to 'rid' oneself of various energies -- so, I think it's a fascinating area to explore.

 

I believe Spirits will communicate, water or no, fragrance or no, if they want to, and in many, but not all cases if you want the communication, but then there are those that just have to bug you, lol. Tell me about it...lmao.

 

Regarding fragrance though, would you not have had to know the person in life for you to know what fragrance they like, which kind of goes back to ancestors, and or friends. Yeah, I think the OP made a specific reference to communicating with his/her grandfather.

 

What about Spirits you did not know in life...how would you know what fragrance they like? Good question. How would you know?

 

What if you choose one they hate, then that would drive them away. Personally, I would not use fragrance in all cases. But, using a scent that is hated definitely has its applications.

 

However, offering something they like (hopefully), or having something of theirs, I think is a good link to open up communication with them. It really is. I think scent is an area that's often overlooked, that's why I mentioned it.

 

( I see offerings and invitation as two separate functions with different purposes, but that's me)

 

You mentioned Spirit guardians, guides, so it opened up the conversation to that. Actually, I didn't - the OP mentioned guardians. I thought I'd be nice and offer an exercise to explore.

 

 

 

My comment was an observation, and from that, my belief that not all people have them, and yes I think it may only be a chosen few...not talking about a fetch. How is a person selected, I don't know. Guardian, to me, is one who guards and protects you, to use your words, all those times something 'told' you, intervened on your behalf, saved your butt

 

I'm so glad you brought this up.

 

This is what I love so much about craft and the ideas put forth here.

 

Certainly, so much of the inner workings of the spirit realm is unknown to those who've yet to cross. I'd venture to guess, or assert, that every human being can find at least one instance that is a logic-defying WHOA moment in their lives. Whether or not this is the result of a guardian, who knows? For the OP or any person new to this practice, going back to those times may be indispensable moving forward. Even if it's to tap into the power of their own instincts and mentally connect to how those instincts manifest. Ultimately, we are our own guardians.

 

It would be interesting to explore what others think guardians are.

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I cant't recall which thread this was mentioned in, but I have a round used in the Civil War, and I don't consider it haunted. Apparently it killed someone, and I can contact that spirit but he's not at all bitter or nasty. Lovely piece of necro equipment.

 

 

It's amazing how many THINGS can be used to connect. This is a fantastic example that a violent death doesn't necessitate haunting or restlessness.

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