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Hiya,

 

This came up in a discussion I was having a while back with a psychologist I know who also studies the occult. She had an interesting hypothesis I would like your thoughts on, if I may.

 

The hypothesis goes like this. The phobias you have in this life are the direct result of horrific situations you were exposed to in your past lives - most often situations which killed you. Someone who has a phobia for fire, using this hypothesis, does so because they either burned to death in a past life or suffered severely as a result of fire. I know it doesn't hold much water with some phobias, but the idea is quite interesting nonetheless.

 

What do you wonderful people think?

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ImamSua, I am one of those people.

 

I must have been stabbed to death by a clown armed with a hypodermic needle in a past life according to that shrink's theory

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What is it with clowns? I've never found them scary but I believe it is the duality- which creates uncertainty in being able to percieve their intentions that frightens people- (when they are children) and then it stays with them...

The past lives thing makes sense to me though- although I think that the lessons that we are supposed to learn may be bigger than that. :crystal-gazing:

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I always hate the makeup. It's so obvious that they are hiding something. Just think of John Wayne Gacy aka Pogo the Clown. I read that book Crawlspace in high school and it scared the shit out of me because it was true.

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I really don't think there's potential for accuracy in that idea at all, but what do I know?

 

There must be way more people dying of snake and spider bites than we actually know. Plane crashes? Shark attacks? All of these are somewhat irrational phobias, some of them go far beyond normal cautionary fear. You would think people would fear deer since Cervids are the most dangerous animal in the world. Driving? Alcohol? All very dangerous and potentially deadly things that kill people all the time yet don't particularly cause irrational fears. I think I've met a handful of people who were deathly afraid of getting into vehicles, and there may be some legitimacy to that being linked to a past life, but often it is easier linked to the current life...something from earlier in life like being in an accident that killed several people when you were 8 years old. That kind of thing.

 

It seems like a really silly idea to be honest. I'd have a hard time taking a psychologist seriously if they suggested that to me, although my own irrational fear (there is only one, and I know better than to share it with a witchcraft forum) might actually tie into the idea. Only....it's a fear that stems from my childhood rather than a past life.

 

I would think that if anything a death in a past life from something would make people less likely to fear it. The idea of having faced it on the mundane plane of existence and still making it back....I think it might even offer some immunity or resistance to it because the immortal soul would have already experienced its worst.

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I guess that would mean that some nurse killed me drawing more blood for one of their many torture schemes I mean tests lol

 

 

You are afraid of nurses? Or just nurses drawing blood? Hehehe.

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I could possibly see it as a past life induced phobia is it was about specific places vices inspecific results, ie fire in general. When you look to the cases that are most cited for reincarnation and such they usually have a very specific nature about them. Recall of events, places, specific people, or people that may continue in the family or associated with the family.

 

I would be more inclined to think upon it if the person displayed such a phobia all of their lives vice something that manifests at a later stage of life. It's like for me personally one might say I died in a suffocation scenario as I have issues with enclosed spaces or tight spaces. That might even hold water if you are not aware of the fact I was trapped in a trunk by a babysitter when I was younger so she could run to the store and had started to turn blue when finally released by my parents. So there is a mundane reason that is hidden in my past but not a past life thing. As a shamanic practitioner that very incident plays havoc when I try to do certain sensory deprivation techniques to achieve journey / vision works. Which is another reason I have such difficulty blindly accepting all the past life influences people try to present as influences upon their current lives.

 

Now I do believe in the womb induced phobia's that result from the mother experiencing something while pregnant. Something which seems far more likely to be a cause for many phobia's people experience and suffer from than a past life emergence. My mom for instances blames herself for a phobia my sister has because of what happened while she was pregnant with her.

 

I would add that I'd think those people who are clinically dead and come back would have a higher amount of phobia's then if a previous life incident manifested in their current life as a phobia. Have seen no medical or scientific proof of them having higher phobia's.

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Ummm, what about nurses with tattoos? :wavex:

Lol.

 

 

Ugh, That makes me think of the Bobble Headed nurses from the Silent Hill games and movies. Talk about scary nurses.

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If you research epigenetics you will see that science supports the view of phobias being passed down from parents and ancestors. The phobias actually get encoded in the epigentics.

 

I have been doing a lot of ancestor and past life work lately - some of the most powerful work I have done for myself in a while.... Really helping both me and my wife (who is doing similar work right now) understand ourselves and each other much better.

 

One example - my wife always has really hard birthdays. Two weeks ago on her birthday she started making drama all about nothing for some reason, so she went to do a ceremony by herself in the forest to figure it out... When she returned a few hours later, she told me of a past life where she had to execute one of her dearest friends on her birthday. She spent the whole day in the past life waiting to see her friend die from an execution she ordered. Made me understand why she had created the drama, which helped me support her much better, and I think the experience was even more helpful for her. We are both curious to see how her birthday goes next year....

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I almost drowned once.... Was really scary at first, but then incredibly peaceful....

 

I have actually been doing a lot of past life work lately, and three questions especially opened this up for me.... Maybe others would find them interesting...

 

Basically, I went on a journey to speak with my most trusted spirit friend. I asked 3 questions and had a vision of each, so I think others could replicate this using any good method of conversing with your spirit guides....

 

Show me the life where I suffered the most.

Show me the life where I had power and did the most harm.

Show me the life where I had power and did the most good.

 

I found out in the process that these 3 lives are incredibly important for understanding myself in this life - so much of who I am and the circumstances I have encountered through life seems directly related to these 3 past lives...

 

I got the 3 questions/lives idea from a teacher I work with - I would be curious to see if these are as insightful for others as they have been for my wife and I...

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I am so sick of past life drama. :yuck: I really hope I'm done with all that shit.

 

This is the one I'm living right now.

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I am so sick of past life drama. :yuck: I really hope I'm done with all that shit.

 

This is the one I'm living right now.

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Lol! Not that long ago I didnt even believe in past lives.... But finally connecting with mine has been helpful so far... I know there is some scary shit in there though that can be difficult to face...

 

Life isnt very simple is it?

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Someone once said they saw a past life and death of mine.... ( a talented someone)

 

Oddly, a part of my body that I protected for 'no reason' since childhood was THE area affected in my death.

 

For a second there, I was like, WOW now it all makes sense.

 

 

 

 

Stranger things have happened.

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I could possibly see it as a past life induced phobia is it was about specific places vices inspecific results, ie fire in general. When you look to the cases that are most cited for reincarnation and such they usually have a very specific nature about them. Recall of events, places, specific people, or people that may continue in the family or associated with the family.

 

I would be more inclined to think upon it if the person displayed such a phobia all of their lives vice something that manifests at a later stage of life. It's like for me personally one might say I died in a suffocation scenario as I have issues with enclosed spaces or tight spaces. That might even hold water if you are not aware of the fact I was trapped in a trunk by a babysitter when I was younger so she could run to the store and had started to turn blue when finally released by my parents. So there is a mundane reason that is hidden in my past but not a past life thing. As a shamanic practitioner that very incident plays havoc when I try to do certain sensory deprivation techniques to achieve journey / vision works. Which is another reason I have such difficulty blindly accepting all the past life influences people try to present as influences upon their current lives.

 

Now I do believe in the womb induced phobia's that result from the mother experiencing something while pregnant. Something which seems far more likely to be a cause for many phobia's people experience and suffer from than a past life emergence. My mom for instances blames herself for a phobia my sister has because of what happened while she was pregnant with her.

 

I would add that I'd think those people who are clinically dead and come back would have a higher amount of phobia's then if a previous life incident manifested in their current life as a phobia. Have seen no medical or scientific proof of them having higher phobia's.

 

 

This!! It is a lot more difficult to establish a phobia as the possible result of something in a past life when it's one that manifests later in life (and not to mention is often accompanied by even more phobias the longer it/they go untreated), than one that's always been there. I'm not necessarily saying it's not the reason bc it's possible (more inclined to think that way if you're born w/it) but if you know someone w/more than one phobia, they've been manifested in this life

 

 

and YES!!! to the in utero theory! You posted pretty much what I was gonna say. I'd also like to add birthing trauma to this. There are so many people I know for example, who are claustrophobic that were stuck in their mother's birth canal for longer than the norm and/or had some type of trauma during the delivery process and those phobias were manifested very early on.

I've read some fairly decent peer reviewed studies on it quite some time ago. I'm sure there's been even more since then (it was about 10yrs ago maybe) and now I feel a research project coming on...THANKS! :tongue:

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I think there's both the possibility of a past life trauma causing phobias in this lifetime, as well as the possibility of someone getting a trauma when they're younger, thus creating said trauma... both avenues are possible...

 

I have had the phobia of water... My mother had the most difficult time giving me a bath since I was a toddler... I would fight and push with my head, as to prevent my mom to wet and rinse my hair directly in the bath water... My mom eventually gave up and resorted to use a pitcher that she would fill with water and then wet/rinse my hair while I'd be in the sitting position (as opposed to laying down)...

 

What my mom didn't know is that every time I was in the bath, I could see the image of a man entering the bathroom, grabbing me by the arms, near the shoulders, and literally drowning me in the bathtub...

 

As I grew up, I avoided taking baths and resorted for the safety of showers lol...

 

The years passed and, I was already a mom when I decided to go see for myself if there was, in fact, past lives...

 

Well, it turns out I was drowned in my bath tub in a past life...

 

I'll spare you the details of the whole thing...

 

What I retain from that, as a positive outcome, is that I stopped fearing the bath tub from that day on...

 

Once you see things with the help of a hypnotist, you get to see the perspectives of everybody involved... you get to understand - although not condoning the action(s) - and to move on...

 

It's very liberating, to say the least! :wink:

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I think there's both the possibility of a past life trauma causing phobias in this lifetime, as well as the possibility of someone getting a trauma when they're younger, thus creating said trauma... both avenues are possible...

 

I have had the phobia of water... My mother had the most difficult time giving me a bath since I was a toddler... I would fight and push with my head, as to prevent my mom to wet and rinse my hair directly in the bath water... My mom eventually gave up and resorted to use a pitcher that she would fill with water and then wet/rinse my hair while I'd be in the sitting position (as opposed to laying down)...

 

What my mom didn't know is that every time I was in the bath, I could see the image of a man entering the bathroom, grabbing me by the arms, near the shoulders, and literally drowning me in the bathtub...

 

As I grew up, I avoided taking baths and resorted for the safety of showers lol...

 

The years passed and, I was already a mom when I decided to go see for myself if there was, in fact, past lives...

 

Well, it turns out I was drowned in my bath tub in a past life...

 

I'll spare you the details of the whole thing...

 

What I retain from that, as a positive outcome, is that I stopped fearing the bath tub from that day on...

 

Once you see things with the help of a hypnotist, you get to see the perspectives of everybody involved... you get to understand - although not condoning the action(s) - and to move on...

 

It's very liberating, to say the least! :wink:

 

Well doing Past Life Regression can help in such circumstances but not necessarily to the extent of removing the Phobia. Such Past Lives' Phobia can also be presented in a form of recurring bad dreams you having since childhood, in reality it may not be a Physical Phobia.

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My wife had an interesting experience recently. She nannies a 4.5 month year old right now and 2 months ago when she started watching the baby it was having all these sleeping problems - it never wanted to sleep and it cried all the time. While trying to put the baby to sleep one day my wife was kinda swept up into a vision/journey where she saw a grown man with the babies face on it - she understood that this might be a past life or something similar of the babies.

 

Well, the man with the baby face was supposed to keep watch of his village, but he fell asleep on the job and his village was sacked during the night. My wife saw all this in the vision, and then she found the crying man who lost his village and comforted him. She was eventually able to bring him back to the babies body and blew it into him.

 

Since then the baby has been sleeping perfectly and even his parents remarked on the difference.

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