If you're making a compound tincture (using more than one herb) it's best to do the maceration/extraction individually & then combine them.
There's precious little information out about making tinctures scientifically so what you need to research is which chemical compound you want out of the herb & then find out whether that is alcohol- or water-soluble. That determines the proportions of alcohol & water in the menstruum (liquid used for extraction). For example, if you want the mucilage out of marshmallow, that's water soluble so you want a higher proportion of water - i.e., a lower proof alcohol will be better. The glycosides in hawthorn are soluble in either so the proportions aren't as critical.
The other thing to remember is that fresh herbs have water in them so you need to take that into account when making your calculations. 99.9% of the time I use dried because the end result is more predictable.
That's actually exactly what I do... Primarily bc I make (and personally use) a fair amount of tinctures and I think it's more effective for non-herbalists; especially regarding the second part I bolded....thank for the extended/more thorough explanation of what I was trying to convey! If you combine several herbs in one tincture utilizing alcohol extraction, yet one is water solvent- then it's kind of a waste.
Also, from a medicinal POV it makes more sense. You always want to take the least amount of medicine that's effective for you. More isn't always better. Sometimes it can even be worse- like combining bendadryl, ambien an xanax to help you relax and sleep. It's likely to work, but it's also very likely to cause respiratory depression too. Plus there's always a chance you might experience an allergic reaction and it's best to know from what specific herb/plant/medication. Hence why I like to add/try new ones one at a time.
Awww, mods don't have rep point buttons
LOL- You took the words right out of my mouth....or actions right out of my hands rather! That's the first thing I went to do after reading MW reply and was like, "well shit- I forgot they don't have rep buttons'
Holy shit! I just use dried herb with certain oils for healing. You guys are seriously advanced in this area! Man you guys are like listening to chemists. I don't have that kind of no how. If I lived by you guys I would be like Red need this and that could you make me some and I'll pay you?lol.
LOL! Well I'm pretty sure MW is an herbalist- her knowledge is vastly greater than mine. I used to be a pharmacy tech for a number of years, in addition to a lab tech and a few other jobs in the medical field. The hubby is also surgical assistant, but still in school to become a PA. I became increasingly irritated as years went by w/how drugs/medications are treated, marketed, etc. They'll (the pharmaceutical industry) change a tiny molecular structure to a medication that's about to go over the counter and remarket it as a new drug...or even in recent years, change (add) a new condition/disease/ailment that can be treated w/an existing medication and reapply for a patent to keep it out of the publics and/or competitors hands.
And don't even get me started on the DEA's drug schedule. Federally marijuana is a schedule I drug- that means (according to the government) it serves no medicinal use at all and is highly abusable, worthy of prison time, etc. Yet cocaine is a schedule II drug- yep that's right. It's still used in medicine (as in pure cocaine- straight from a lab)- more frequently than people might realize actually- but it's actually highly physically addictive and causes more severe problems compared to marijuana, yet it's listed as a schedule II drug just like percocet, adderall, and a wide list of others (now including vicodin even). However, naturally it's not actually prescribed to patients (it's used primarily as an anesthesia in a hospital setting). So it's illegal for US to possess and use, but bc it's still recognized as having medicinal value, it's a schedule II drug.
If you're really interested in some herbal remedies for your MS- would you mind sending me a list of your pertinent medical history- particularly any prescription and non-prescription medications you currently take (even vitamins and of course any other herb/plant), if you have any other preexisting conditions, and if you have any known drug allergies. I'll then gather the info I mentioned in the shout box, send it to you so you can look it over and tell me what you think. Then we'll go from there. I usually try to stick w/medical journals for major references (there are some good ones believe it or not for herbal remedies), but I'll also include info from reputable herbal sources, literature, etc. Then you can make an informed decision.