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So I've got this chronic pain problem


Wexler

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Right around when I turned 18 (this is about three years ago, now) I started to get really awful nerve, muscle, and joint pain. At times it's been ridiculously painful, to the point where it is debilitating. At other times (and most often) it is a mild to moderate annoyance that I've learned to deal with.

 

Typically, the pain manifests as stabbing or shooting sensations that have hit every part of my body excepting my head, chest, lower back, and abdomen. My hips and legs seem to be affected the most. The pain episodes can last from a few minutes to a few days, which righteously sucks. Additionally, the pain seems to increase at times when I am weak; during periods of intense stress, a phase of very unhealthy living, when I am sick, et cetera, and virtually disappear during very healthy times of my life. They also crop up almost immediately and for a short time if I spend time thinking about it (like right now, for example).

 

I've been to several doctors over the years and I have always been perfectly healthy. One doctor told me it was entirely psychosomatic. My current doctor pretty much agrees.

 

One thing I have noticed in my life is that normal, mundane "ouch I damaged my body and now it is hurting" pain I cannot get rid of by magical means. Trying to manipulate energy to soothe these owwies just doesn't work for me. I have learned, however, that when I get my random psychosomatic pain, curing it with energy manipulation absolutely works. I can literally "brush away" the pain and cure and protect the area with focused energies. Sometimes, however, it takes more focus and concentration, and the pain may not be removed but only temporarily dulled when the attack is especially viscous.

 

I feel I have come to a conclusion that my pain issues are magically/otherworldly induced. I honestly feel a bit silly saying it, as I don't want to be a psychic hypochondriac. There are just a lot of factors that I feel point me in that direction, but at the same time could be construed as paranoia (for example, the points of pain will react to me if I verbally speak to them and even disappear entirely for short periods if I tell them to fudge off, yet it could be argued that the pain is still entirely mental and my subconscious is merely obeying my conscious).

 

My question is, has anyone else experienced pain problems like this? As I feel that my problems can be very affected by magical means I am currently trying to figure out ways to get rid of them for good, because whether or not they are totally in my head they seem controllable. I just feel I would have a better basis for understanding what they are and where they come from if indeed they are a magical, and not mental, phenomena.

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I have nerve damage to my lumbar sacral plexus that's sort of like that. Actually it sounds like fibromyalgia but I'm not a DR I know people who go years trying to figure out what's wrong before they find a DR that diagnoses them with it. I'm very sensitive to people with nerve pain because I know first hand exactly how debilitating it is. I understand why you think it may be something other worldly, I really couldn't say if it is or not because I can't see you. I know that nerve pain is very difficult to diagnose even if they do MRIs and cat scans they miss it, I had an EEG that found mine but its expensive and excruciatingly painful so I don't really recommend it. I have tried almost everything to try and control mine and something's work ok others not at all. Warm water is a huge help so take long warm baths that I infuse with herbs. Another thing that helps is meditation and mentally pushing the pain either into a small box or out of my body. I make lotions with essential oils and vitamin E that I find helps although I smell really spicy afterwards . Last but not least I Lao take large quantities of vitamin B12 and omega 3. Honestly though I still turn to pain medicine when its really bad and I try my best not to aggravate it because unlike most injuries building muscle or stretching isn't helpful and because I have scar tissue on the nerves it can actually do a lot of harm. Good luck figuring it out and I hope you get some relief soon.

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My vote is for fibromyalgia. I happen to know a bit about perception and the mind's ability to control pain centers. If you are that open, a good hypnotist should be able to help.

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I'd think about befriending the pain. Anything fought only fights back...

 

M

 

We do a lot of that around here . . . befriending pains. ;)

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Thank you all for your input :)

 

Athena, I really wish I could take baths but they leave me feeling very sick and feverish, and they have even made me pass out at times. I am trying to figure out why, because other activities like swimming don't leave me feeling that way, just baths. I suspect it has a lot to do with me preferring hot water...

 

My current doctor says I "might" have fibromyalgia, as I have several symptoms (including sensitivity in pressure points, depression, trouble sleeping, headaches, et cetera) and I meet all the criteria for diagnosis, however he does not want to diagnose me with it. While my first doctor told me I was experiencing pain issues from taking birth control (he was a Christian and severely against it), this doctor tells me I am experiencing pain because I dye my hair too often and because I don't take enough walks. I feel that even if I dye my hair and take birth control, those things do not cause widespread chronic pain in a normal, healthy person. Everyone I have talked to so far treats me like a bit of a hypochondriac when I bring up FM, so I am wary of discussing it with my doctor. Being a young person, most people typically do not take my medical concerns seriously. I am not trying to discount old-fashioned gumption as an aid, but I feel that for the most part getting out of my house more often and getting fresh air are not going to cure an issue I have been dealing with for three years. I don't mean to go on, but it is a bit frustrating :(

 

Anyway... I will keep trying to figure out what to do with this issue.

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Get a new doctor . . . They should take your concerns seriously, no matter how old you are.

 

J

I agree! I have a medical condition that defies medical lodgic but after tests that proved I do infact have a very rare disease that's only supposed to affect we omen over 60 (I was 29) my DR threw out the rule book and told me everyone's different you are just my patient X I get to tell other DRs about. Find a DR like that one that takes you seriously and looks at you as an individual not a text book.

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As I am still on my parent's health insurance, I had a talk with my mom today and she agreed it was time for me to start looking for pain management specialists. I feel that regardless of my medical diagnosis, as my crafty meddlings seem to have been somewhat effective, I will continue poking around and perhaps gain some very useful skills from it. My current best possible hope is to get prescribed pain medication that actually helps when my issues become debilitating and using my own "methods" to handle the normal, daily pain that comes and goes. I still feel that in the back of my mind, this issue is not entirely mundane, but I don't feel there's much of a point in worrying about what it is or isn't, because what works to fix it works to fix it.

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On top all of that you can work to towards balancing out your own body and energy. If you feel that it is partially due to something otherworldly, there is no harm in balancing out yourself and putting up defenses.

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I am not certain what you feel that you would have done to earn the wrath of the otherworld, as generally energy and entities from other realms do not even know about or, if they do, care to acknowledge the vast majority of people. We are like flies on a gnat's ass; totally insignificant. The few times that I have experienced physical pain as a result of some working, I have actually deserved it. I knew physical discomfort was a possibility and chose to take the risk anyway. Is that an option? That does not usually happen without some very specific, hard-core, and relatively nasty workings, which is why I was leaning toward some kind of undiagnosed ailment in your case. I hope you feel better soon.

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I wasn't even *meaning* to do a working, when I put *that* plant to my lips.

 

The ramifications were horrendous..... remember ? LOL ! I wonder if that was *otherworldly*, I'm not going back there to find out.

 

 

Regards,

Gypsy

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I wasn't even *meaning* to do a working, when I put *that* plant to my lips.

 

The ramifications were horrendous..... remember ? LOL ! I wonder if that was *otherworldly*, I'm not going back there to find out.

 

 

Regards,

Gypsy

 

In your case, CG, the otherworld needs to intervene to prevent you from hurting yourself. Now, that's a full time job.

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I am not certain what you feel that you would have done to earn the wrath of the otherworld, as generally energy and entities from other realms do not even know about or, if they do, care to acknowledge the vast majority of people. We are like flies on a gnat's ass; totally insignificant. The few times that I have experienced physical pain as a result of some working, I have actually deserved it. I knew physical discomfort was a possibility and chose to take the risk anyway. Is that an option? That does not usually happen without some very specific, hard-core, and relatively nasty workings, which is why I was leaning toward some kind of undiagnosed ailment in your case. I hope you feel better soon.

The reason I am still on the fence is specifically because just around this time I did something that can only be explained by rampant stupidity. I can't recall exactly the wording I used, but I did something along the lines of inviting in whatever happened to be around to get something I specifically wanted at the time. While I do have my doubts about whether or not anything took notice and hopped on board (especially because I have such little experience or knowledge in these matters), the possibility that I attracted (now unwanted) attention I haven't yet been able to rule out. That is also coupled with the fact that over the years I have been tested for, and come up totally free of, almost every possible disease and problem that could cause my current symptoms. Every doctor who has looked at me has given me a totally clean bill of health. Maybe I should go to the palmist and see if she wants a few hundred bucks to clean out my negative energies? Lol...

 

I feel it may be magical because so far it isn't anything mundane, and not for lack of trying to identify it. But it could well be something very mundane that I am fortunately able to control or soothe through magical means.

 

And thank you Jevne, I hope I feel better soon as well! Perhaps I will be able to come back and bump this thread in a few months or years and share what I've learned in regards to crafty pain management and control.

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Save your money . . . :) If you are powerful enough to provoke some otherworldly entity with a few poorly chosen words, you will have no trouble getting rid of some negative energies. LOL!

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I have to agree with the majority here, that you need to get a new doctor. I don't know you or about your pain, only my own and I don't give a flying fuck what some random MD says if I continue to have pain. It comes from somewhere. It has taken years to get to see the proper doctors and get some relief for me but the squeaky wheel gets the oil, ya know? All the nerve tests I've had over the years have diagnosed exactly dick, but I continue to and will likely always have nerve pain from my injuries. It took 4 years to finally get to my pain Dr and finally, I have some relief and a better understanding of why my body fails me.

 

There are several attempts I have made and continue to make to push my pain away or out of me or even into a locality that I can manage better. For instance, I can handle pain in my back better than I can my head, etc. And on occasion they work. Doesn't keep me from trying but my pain is greater than my ability to rid myself of it. There's no shame in that. It's real. That's just me.

 

No offence intended but you could be reading entirely too much into this. With physical pain comes other types of pain as well including emotional and spiritual. In my experience, it affects balance. Plain and simple. I've had to learn to do things a bit differently and sometimes I have to concede to the fact (at my ego's total consternation) that I just can't do certain things at certain times. Know thy self and all that.

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Just wanted to suggest finding a really good physiotherapy clinic. I have severe arthritis but also struggled with terrible nerve pain in my face. MRIs and doctors found nothing as the nerve issues are sometimes not perceptible at that level. Good physiotherapy fixed the nerve pain after two years of hell; it also helps with arthritic pain.

 

I do have fibromyalgia flares occasionally and generally related to stress and not enough sleep. I once did a particularly negative spellworking, didn't ground or protect myseld and sure enough could barely walk for two days. Never again!

 

 

Just food for thought. I wouldn't rule out medical causes yet.

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I should add. I DiD Ground myself but my protection and grounding methods were half-assed and i paid for it physically. Sorry...can't see the edit feature tonight.

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I should add. I DiD Ground myself but my protection and grounding methods were half-assed and i paid for it physically. Sorry...can't see the edit feature tonight.

I agree with this as it's happened to me as well.

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Hello Wexler... What you've described does sound a lot like fibromyalgia.  I have it, and so do both my parents.  I was diagnosed by a rheumatologist.  However self-management does have a lot to do with it even after you get a diagnosis.  What has helped me the most is swimming and knitting (which is essentially active meditation).

 

Like you though I do think there is a deeper root to it than just "my nerves don't work right".  I developed it after a period of chronic stress, and I have recently discovered through readings that it might also be linked to some negative experiences in my past which I have yet to resolve.  I think for me, it has been my body's way of saying "ENOUGH!!  Stop and deal with this because we're not moving forwards until you do/#."  Which has been a blessing, in some respects.

 

I am also in my early twenties and I really relate to your frustration that others don't take it seriously.  Just have to ignore them.

 

I hope you can find a resolution soon.  If it is fibromyalgia, don't despair, it IS possible to get better.  My dad only has rare days where he suffers pain now, and mine has diminished a lot. :)

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  • 1 month later...

Hello again, folks!

 

I have been struggling a bit with this thing, which is why I have been away for the last month.

 

In the interest of sharing a complete story, I do not have fibromyalgia, but am rather developing scleroderma. About since the time I made this thread I was feeling very stressed out, but with this new diagnosis and a treatment plan I am feeling more like myself again, and hopefully will have the gumption to stick around on TW a little more.

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Hope all goes well for you with the treatment plan. How did the MD diagnose you?

Thank you Autumn!

 

As it turns out, there is a level of genetic testing which most general practitioners do not do. I believe I had these same tests done either two or three years ago, but it had not developed to the point where it would show up. Once they took blood it simply showed up on the results... quite a surprise, considering the run-around other doctors gave me!

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I'm so glad that you were able to finally get a diagnosis and a treatment plan.  It can be so frustrating to know that something is wrong and not know what it is.  It's so much worse when doctors won't take you seriously.

 

Have you considered chiropractic?  It can be tremendously helpful.

 

I hope that your health continues to improve and that the treatment plan continues to work well for you.

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