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#41 Jevne

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 03:59 AM

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Okay, just did a quick search and the coins were definitely made before these talismans, dating back to BC. So, I wonder if the talismans that witches were making in the middle ages were influenced by the design of these pentagram coins... Or maybe something older that I haven't come across yet. There were some though that just looked so much like those old coins.

 

I do not know the answer to the question, but the concept of pentagram coins is interesting to me.  I did a very quick search and found a lot of information; some good and some not-so-good in terms of the historical and cultural significance.  Many of the images that I found were quite beautiful.


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#42 Autumn Moon

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 04:03 AM

Links please :)


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#43 Jevne

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 04:08 AM

Links please :smile:

 

For some reason, I am not able to get the links function to work on this site.  It may be this stupid "borrowed" computer.  Sorry.  If someone else wants to add a link, I would appreciate it, too.  Otherwise, I will as soon as I can.


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#44 Autumn Moon

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 04:13 AM

Okay, have you tried copy and past? In the meantime. A link on the history of the pentagram http://symboldictionary.net/?p=1893


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Posted 20 December 2013 - 04:18 AM

http://www.asiaminor...s.php?album=109

This is the site I found last night and have saved in Pocket. Googling pentagram coins should come up with a few websites. There was a really good website with a lot of info that I read through a year ago and can't seem to find again. I'm hoping that's saved in my favorites on IE and I'll put that link asap.

I'm having issues finding pictures online of the Middle Age talismans though. I'm hoping I have the paper w/ the works cited page saved on my desktop. I'd really like to go back and read through some of those books again anyways.

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#46 Jevne

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 04:22 AM

Okay, have you tried copy and past?

 

Seriously?  :dry:

 

Of course, I have, Silly.

 

Thanks for the link.


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#47 Autumn Moon

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 04:24 AM

You're just link challenged I guess, ;)


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#48 Autumn Moon

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 04:26 AM

Or...get a computer of your own, lol


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Posted 21 December 2013 - 01:27 AM

Jesting aside. I could never make the link on the toobar above work for me, so I always just copy and paste (which always works for me).


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Posted 21 December 2013 - 01:59 AM

As a teen, I found the pentagram and wore a pendant, but in later years realized I don't really have a personal connection to this symbol.

I can appreciate it for its representational value (5 is a critical number) and its place in some traditions, however.  Around here in New England, some older homes were built with pentagram/pentacles embeded in the archiecture, above building entrances.  I wish I had a photo to share; at first glance, it looks just like design art but I think it was built with intention.  I've read that this relates back to beliefs about keeping away bad spirits and evil.  For me, I use sage.


Edited by Faith, 21 December 2013 - 02:05 AM.

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 04:08 PM

About Pentacles, Pentagrams hexagrams etc... Apart from the Jewish people using the Hexagram as a symbol of their Faith, the symbol was used in Magic to represent the conjoined Male and Female aspects in what has been called the Great Rite. It didn't start as a great rite for Wiccans since it was used in 1486 - 1535 (according to Henry Cornelius Agrippa of Nettesheim) in his Three Books of Occult Philosophy. The five-pointed Star may well have been used before then (which they were if you look at pottery from the Neolithic period of our history) in Greece, such as Rhodes, Cyprus, Crete, Turkey, Carthage, and Morrocco. You will probably find these symbols much farther affield in Central AFrica as well as Egypt, Chaldea, Babylon and Ur. I have not yet been to China yet - but given time I might just get there and have a poke around! foxman


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Posted 25 January 2014 - 04:20 PM

Faith - the Frame houses you describe in New England used the pentagram like they used Hex Marks such as the Six-pointed Star as well as the five to ward off witchcraft! They were pretty superstitious back then just as they were in Salem, Massachusetts, too! You will find a lot of these 'marks' on Barns, 'Shippings' where they draw Milk from Cows or make Butter. Quite a few can be found over here in Norfolk which is a very Witchy place and has a lot of Witchcraft families going back to the Danelaw in Saxon times. One of our members is from there and is a specialist in Cunning Craft or Foxman Craft before that - like yours truly. foxman


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 10:41 PM

Incidentally, you won't find Cunning Craft mentioned before Elizabeth the first as it was around that time that the Cunning Man and Woman came into fashion. Before that, you had the Foxman, Wise-man or Woman, and in Europe, especially in Russia, the Shaman and the Shamanka (whitch is the female version of a Shaman).  Sangoma (Africa) and Obeah Man (Jamaica) had similar associations to the Foxman though it was more connected with where they lived, such as the Lion-Man and Tiger-Man of Africa and India respectively. foxman


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 11:03 PM

I don't own any pentagrams, I never have. They have never felt relevant or necessary to me, so I never bothered. I generally use herbs in protection for my home, combined with a couple of my Nan's spells. For me personally, I've always associated pentagrams with people who want to make big statements about their 'witchiness' (mostly from kids during high school and uni, not directed at anyone's choice to wear it here). I never understood having to make an obvious statement about your beliefs, when for me witch craft is just a part of my life. The air and the earth know what I am, and for me that's enough. But it's like any symbol, if it works for you as an individual, then go with it :)


This is exactly how I feel as well. I don't see the point of incorporating a symbol into my life unless it resonates with me.

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